It seems you didn't read the post I was responding to in my last post, if that is directed at me
And for clarification, I'm not implying it's guaranteed. I'm saying straight up he's going to lose.
I did acknowledge there's no such thing as a guarantee. It's my best guess. I'm more than willing to stand by it.
Originally posted by mike brown
It seems you didn't read the post I was responding to in my last post, if that is directed at meAnd for clarification, I'm not implying it's guaranteed. I'm saying straight up he's going to lose.
I did acknowledge there's no such thing as a guarantee. It's my best guess. I'm more than willing to stand by it.
Right so you think it's a for sure thing. Did you wanna spend another page playing semantics or can we move on?
Originally posted by SurturI'm basically saying he's going to lose. Knowing I could technically be wrong. But it seems likely enough that I'm willing to go out on a limb so I can cite the prediction later on when it comes true.
This isn't really about you mike, I have no problems with you, but I feel you basically proved me right. Basically. If you're not saying guaranteed it seems like you're saying "all but guaranteed".
Originally posted by mike brown
Honestly though this is a pointless pissing match that's why I agreed to move on.The important thing is that we all agree Trump is guaranteed to lose.
YAWN.
Just like all of you morons on the left were so certain he'd lose in 2016. It was "guaranteed" then as well lol.
It's gonna be so nice though enjoying all of y'alls wittle crybaby tears again as history repeats itself. 🙂
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaeDo you really believe you are a beacon of wisdom?
YAWN.Just like all of you morons on the left were so certain he'd lose in 2016. It was "guaranteed" then as well lol.
It's gonna be so nice though enjoying all of y'alls wittle crybaby tears again as history repeats itself. 🙂
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it
Originally posted by mike brown
Honestly though this is a pointless pissing match that's why I agreed to move on.The important thing is that we all agree Trump is guaranteed to lose.
Pointless pissing matches are what Rob does. I clearly captured the jist of what you were implying, but he still had to make an issue out of it anyways. It was completely unnecessary, added nothing to the conversation, etc. Which is fine, but it is what it is.
And nope I don't think he's guaranteed to lose or win.
Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnaeI wasn't sure he would lose in 2016. There was a rise in populist sentiment and he appealed to even some former Obama supporters with his promise he would bring their jobs back. Even then, he barley won in many the key states he relied on for a victory. His approval rating in those states today is not at all promising. And his national approval rating has never been particularly good.
YAWN.Just like all of you morons on the left were so certain he'd lose in 2016. It was "guaranteed" then as well lol.
It's gonna be so nice though enjoying all of y'alls wittle crybaby tears again as history repeats itself. 🙂
Those who forget history are condemned to repeat it
Given how shitty he is as a President, and how instead of bringing back American blue collar jobs he's hurting those industries with his silly tariffs, I believe he's ****ed in 2020. In fact I'll probably put money on it if we see the same sort of betting we did last election.
Originally posted by mike brown
YouTube video
This was a very well done video. However, it did get a bit too much "appeal to emotion" logically fallacious at times.
I don't care about their feelings or opinions. I care about the bottom-line.
For example, boat guy, if his total boat cost for a median boat he produces goes up in cost by $2, that's negligible.
If it goes up by $2,000 and the total cost is $120,000, that's significant.
I don't want to hear the Steal Plant CEO's whining. I want numbers.
Also, I think free trade is not the answer, as well. I would rather talk to an economist about that. Or 7 of them.
The fact that the industries are interconnected and so targeting China will hurt more than just China isn't an appeal to emotion. What is an actual appeal to emotion is the idea that Trump is going to stand up to China who is screwing American industry.
It taps into the Us vs them tribal mindset of people, and makes unrealistic promises on that basis.
Originally posted by mike brown
The fact that the industries are interconnected and so targeting China will hurt more than just China isn't an appeal to emotion. What is an actual appeal to emotion is the idea that Trump is going to stand up to China who is screwing American industry.It taps into the Us vs them tribal mindset of people, and makes unrealistic promises on that basis.
Actually, yes it is.
You just made the same mistake. You used the word "hurt." I want actual facts. Do you have them?
Trump's idea is not an appeal to emotion. It's based on facts: trade-deficit to the tune of half a trillion dollars. The appeal to emotion parts are how he wants to go about it.
Appeal to emotion uses emotionally charge language devoid of facts to make an argument. "Hurt", "terrible", "outrageous", etc. Stick with facts and be wary of bullshit logical fallacies. That video is very well done and interviews industry relevant people. But did you hear a single fact about their companies on how it actually harmed their bottom line? I didn't. That's a red flag. While the video is dressed up in super fancy impartiality and high quality production, if you look a bit closer, you can see the bias.