Superman vs Thanos

Started by Eon Blue20 pages

Superman wins.

What book/issue is that from?

Superman wins. His speed advantage seals this beyond a shadow of a doubt. Thanos does not have the reflexes to handle it, as evident when The Runner literally ran circles around him.

Runner: “...I can beat you to death with super speed.”

Runner is tapping into the Space Gem.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thanos with the upmost ease can PHYSICALLY push Phoenix force Thane through, a planet, and tank the impact unscratched.

The problem is, the canon of the whole Thanos series (2016 - 2018) is called into question, unless you believe that Blackbolt’s shout can annihilate a group of celestials like in Thanos #14. The whole Thanos run abused and nerfed Marvel’s abstracts and cosmic beings.

What Cates wrote has nothing to do with what Lemire wrote.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
What Cates wrote has nothing to do with what Lemire wrote.

Naturally. But that’s not an argument to support what is canon or not. It was the same series, with issues literally just separated months apart, and it had the same editor and editor-in-chief.

Yet it is officially canon. The Blackbolt you speak of is of an alternate future, so he and others from that future are not canon, but it is canon for 616 Thanos and other 616 characters until retconned or officially stated otherwise.

There was no mention of an alternate future. In fact, Thanos #14 says, “The Future.” Period.

And, why would that matter if you concede it’s a possible future? How does the future have any bearing on power scale changes, where Marvel abstracts are suddenly nerfed?

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
strength does not win against thanos. Ultra strong characters have been koed by strong characters in all kinds of strength classes. Thats what fool a lot of fans when their favorite character ko a higher character. Just cause you are herald, trans, abstract or what ever does not mean a far weaker character cant knock you out. Look at how strong and durable superman is, yet he was koed by a gas station explosion.
I keep seeing you mention the gas station explosion in an attempt at lowballing.

So lets add some context.

This was depowered Superman post-COIE... prior to him getting up and later in the same story digging deep and realizing his power for the first time, and beating a guy to death that the New Gods -- conceptual gods stronger than pantheon gods -- were scared of. A character who had previously went toe to toe with a Guardian, who surmised that even being amped by many other Guardians that he would still likely lose to Doomsday, so sacrificed himself and tore a hole in reality just to BFR him.

Superman even at the beginning of that story, and at the end of it, are miles apart. And that was just dipping his toe into the level of power he possesses, just once and only for a few moments 27 years ago, and already reached a level that would unequivocally smash a Thanos that possessed no story amps.

Originally posted by panthergod
Superman power is limited by his self belief.

Yes, He can stomp Thanos at peak confidence, as is well beyond Thanos in strength, and comparable in durability.

Yes, you are. clown.

Couldn't care less about one of the biggest illiterates on this board's opinions . you're an entertaining clown, nothing more.

Name a single instance of Thanos one-shot shattering a trans tier character's bones via strength alone.

And yes, God of War WW is trans tier. Period.

Debating that fact disqualifies you from this subject.

..And Doomsday's isn't..?

BTW, post Reborn, Nu52 Doomsday is the same being as Pre-Flashpoint Doomsday.
Even IF you wanted to argue that Thanos is above DD -- which you cannot argue without laughable circular logic -- This was still a Superman at Half power to post Reborn Superman, who was further being drained of energy at the time BY DD.

Extrapolating this showing, it is not in any way unreasonable to think that Superman could do the same to Thanos, who is NOT far above DD in any way(or at all, since DD is WELL above him on average, particularly post Reborn)

But yeah, post Reborn Superman can definitely beat the shit out of Thanos at peak confidence/mindset.

Tearing him apart is UNLIKELY, but in no way unreasonable, since he does it to comparable characters at FAR lesser level of innate power, while being drained, than he is capable of at present.

Cry more.

Lord Marvel was trans tier bare minimum and Thanos easily handled him. Nice post

Originally posted by panthergod
Wait..

you think Lord Mar-Vell is impressive..?

😂 😂 😂

Go ahead, you clearly out of your depth child...

Go ahead and demonstrate the all powerful Lord Mar-Vell oh so impressive physical stats.

I WILL be laughing at your transparent clown routine in the meanwhile, son.

Psst: Superman literally tears apart actually far above team busters-- with actual impressive feats, to boot.

How about this: LEt's see a SINGLE showing of durability Lord Mar-Vell has above, say-- an Imperiex Probe.

i'll wait.

Keep crying, kid.

Lord Mar-Vell was ****ing around with 3 top tier Marvel herald level characters and Thanos washed him with 1 hand in like 3 pages. Hell Adamagus was a team killer in that and he was well below Mar-Vell. Thanos >>>> Mar-Vell >> Adam Magus >> any herald level character

https://imgur.com/GyOczY3 would kill any Imperiex probe yet it didn't even scratch Thanos.

Imperiex probe lost to mogul and Superman. Silver Surfer would easily handle both of those guys and Mar-Vell not only threw him around but also 2 other characters in the same weight class.

Also Thanos' corpse was completely unscathed despite being at the heart of a galaxy wiping blast.
https://imgur.com/K8qYkHo

Looks like there's 0 Superman can do to him.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lord Mar-Vell was ****ing around with 3 top tier Marvel herald level characters and Thanos washed him with 1 hand. Hell Adamagus was a team killer in that and he was well below Mar-Vell.

Also would kill any Imperiex probe yet it didn't even scratch Thanos.

Also Thanos' corpse was completely unscathed despite being at the heart of a galaxy wiping blast.
https://imgur.com/K8qYkHo

Looks like there's 0 Superman can do to him.

Glad to have you back. Youve been missed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
The way that each were defeated by either Strange, Warlock, Moondragon or Thanos himself implies that all, except Omega, are overall less formidable.

Why? Thanos never said that.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lord Marvel was trans tier bare minimum and Thanos easily handled him. Nice post

That was when Thanos was powered up as avatar of Death.

Originally posted by abhilegend
That was when Thanos was powered up as avatar of Death.
Which only gave him immortality and no power up to his stats.

Comparing DC's pantheon/skyfathers to Odin is straight laughable. Odin has feats that are beyond any other skyfather I've seen by miles and miles. And when Thanos fought Odin on Asgard Thanos was chilling and trying to deescalate whereas Odin was going for the kill. This is also a much weaker version of Thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
Glad to have you back. Youve been missed.
Good to be back buddy

Also, how about Old King Thanos one-shotting Galactus only to be shown weaker than the real Thanos? Not sure what was going on in that series or how that made sense but it's there and we're talking about it.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Lord Mar-Vell was ****ing around with 3 top tier Marvel herald level characters and Thanos washed him with 1 hand in like 3 pages. Hell Adamagus was a team killer in that and he was well below Mar-Vell. Thanos >>>> Mar-Vell >> Adam Magus >> any herald level character

No, really? By that logic Superman>>Imperiex probe >>Mordru >>Green Lantern+Martian Manhunter+Flash etc.

https://imgur.com/GyOczY3 would kill any Imperiex probe yet it didn't even scratch Thanos.

😂

Hardly, even galaxy busting energy was easily absorbed by a probe.

And just how powerful was one probe ? Fortress Eradicator saw just
imperiex probe destroy entire
galaxies and had to fly away from lightyeard of aftershocks just to get away from it.
https://postimg.cc/image/hcm7piewt/
https://postimg.cc/image/wlc53agb1/
One Imperiex probe destroyed Maxima's galaxy.
https://postimg.cc/image/oslhbd7rx/
https://postimg.cc/image/qx5ucg1ot/
https://postimg.cc/image/j4f6kgga5/
https://postimg.cc/image/yd53y8hod/
https://postimg.cc/image/hcm7pkrsd/
The galaxies were destroyed by probes creating a construct and channeling their power to destroy
the galaxy whose power was then channeled into Imperiex's ship.
https://postimg.cc/image/609m7tlod/
https://postimg.cc/image/3vp96qrrh/
https://postimg.cc/image/7qsn9b37h/
https://postimg.cc/image/t0g9k5yxp/
https://postimg.cc/image/nc9yt8s0d/

Imperiex probe lost to mogul and Superman. Silver Surfer would easily handle both of those guys and Mar-Vell not only threw him around but also 2 other characters in the same weight class.

So much wrong in this paragraph, Superman would beat the shit out of both Mar-Vell and Surfer at this point.


Also Thanos' corpse was completely unscathed despite being at the heart of a galaxy wiping blast.
https://imgur.com/K8qYkHo

Looks like there's 0 Superman can do to him.

That wasn't a galaxy busting blast to begin with (just a few solar system) and Nova survived it just fine. Its not like Thanos took the full blast all by himself.

Originally posted by TheTyrant
Which only gave him immortality and no power up to his stats.

Are you sure? Because Phylla was able to kill dragon of the moon with her powers as avatar of Death.

http://i.imgur.com/5y1yIZc.jpg

Who could no sell Quasar just before.

http://i.imgur.com/5k1VXtN.jpg

She also killed Warlock with those powers.