Should the ban on Superman vs. threads be reinstated?

Originally posted by darthgoober
We have a thread for rulings, it just doesn't get updated every time a ruling is made. My suggestion would actually be to pin a thread specifically dedicated to clarifying and discussing rulings and such so there's less confusion about the logic being used to support or ban things. That would cut back on individual threads being derailed over such things and there'd probably be less confusion about which things apply and when.

My only question is why comic vine doesn’t have these problems.

Originally posted by Galan007
I'm curious to see what Pr and Bada think as well, because at this point i don't really know if that would fix the problem...

I like the idea though.

We have a ruling that interviews are inadmissible.

Guess what, people still use them as evidence. Including some in this very thread, just now.

😂😂

No doesn’t mean no apparently

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Originally posted by Badabing
You have now been added to the ban list. 👆

Better a fair mod, then Impediment.

Can you believe he banned Quan? For trolling, he says!

Quan has never trolled anyone in his life. 😠

Originally posted by Galan007
Bashing, trolling, flaming, etc.

So yes.

Originally posted by Astner
Then ban those who engage in those types of behaviors, and eventually they'll stop. The bans don't have to be particularly long as long as they're handed out consistently they will deter posters from posting stupid shit.

The problem is, very few posters engage in this behavior. And the few that do, are very clever about it.

Okay, so I thought about it, and... No, I don't think we should re-institute the ban. It might just be time to ban the people who make the threads as annoying to read as they are.

cdtm brought up a very good point earlier, asking if something is a lie if a person believes it. And in the case of questions like "who is more powerful?", there's always wiggle room to argue about things like that, so no, I don't consider that lying.

What is lying, though? When a comic blatantly states something, and people twist it to their own ends. Now, generally I have no issue when people will read a scene and take something non-featy from it. Like a character's motivation or their perception of something on a moral/ethical level. That shit is interesting, and it's part of the best debates about comics (imo).

Quantifiable feats, though? No. When the page states something, it states something. Unless the math is somehow wrong, like in the case of the Flash saving a Korean town feat. Is the math wrong? Yes, because the comic states that Flash saved everyone, and that statement carries more weight than the speed he was going. Literally. The feat is STILL quantifiable, though. People on this board alone have done the math.

If you're going to misinterpret a feat, by ANY character, then you're trolling. And I don't mean "Stilt shitting on Aquaman" trolling. I mean actual "I hate that Superman can beat my favourite character, so I'm going to act the fool about it" trolling. That just makes you a ****.

And for anyone that says "why can they say Superman stomps, but I can't say Hulk/Thor/Aquaman stomps?", yes you can. You have been doing it for over a decade. Stop being a liar. It doesn't make you clever, but the option has always been there.

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The truth of it is, in years gone by you would have seen people like Philo, Juntai, myself and some others say things like "Superman is as powerful as he needs to be to win the battle", or talking about things like dynamic powersets. The reason the ban went in to effect at all was because with the World Forger feat, now DC was definitely, unequivocally saying it. It wasn't just one feat either, but it was that final straw that broke the camel's back.

There is no Marvel equivalent. There should be (and I think Hulk is the closest to it, and should be treated as such by writers), but there just isn't. Until there is, Superman is always going to be seen as having that extra gear that even his peers just can't keep up with.

Superman can beat pretty much everyone's favourite character. Even mine. You might not think it's right, but if your basis for liking your favourite character is how powerful they are, then that's your problem, and your business. It doesn't mean I have to listen to you whine about it.

Has anyone ever said characters like Thor or Hulk could pull a clean sweep against Superman though? We all know he can beat the best of them but there is still a debate to it imo. If we go into a thread knowing for a FACT a character is just going to win because it's that character, then what is the point in having this person in any threads? I agree with everything you said, except, I think if someone feels Thor could pull a 6/10, I wouldn't call that person a troll OR bash them for it. I've debated against a lot of people here that thinks Thor could pull a clean sweep against Hulk and I remained civil and did not call that person a troll or whatever even though I could post showings of Hulk caving Thor head in. Anything is debatable. Especially with power levels fluctuating per each writer.

Originally posted by carver9
Has anyone ever said characters like Thor or Hulk could pull a clean sweep against Superman though?

Originally posted by carver9
Hulk literary one punches him. Haven't see anything from Supes that gets him the win here.

In a comicbook, heros WILL be written to win against overwelming odds. Superman is NOT the only hero that does it, but its ALL controlled by who the writer wants to win. If the writer wants wonderman to punch through trion juggernauts shield and ko him, then its going to happen in a comic, there are no writets here.

In a comicbook, heros WILL be written to win against overwelming odds. Superman is NOT the only hero that does it, but its ALL controlled by who the writer wants to win. If the writer wants wonderman to punch through trion juggernauts shield and ko him, then its going to happen in a comic, there are no writers here. You cannot say a character is allmighty when he is allowed to beat galactus but has lost to damage or WW. You cannot have one without the other. Superman fans on KMC think that a forum battle is the same as a comicbook battle they read. Example, john cena beats bigshow in the ring as a storyline, but then they all go out to eat and cena and show gets into it foreal and show breaks cena jaw.

Originally posted by carver9
Has anyone ever said characters like Thor or Hulk could pull a clean sweep against Superman though? We all know he can beat the best of them but there is still a debate to it imo. If we go into a thread knowing for a FACT a character is just going to win because it's that character, then what is the point in having this person in any threads? I agree with everything you said, except, I think if someone feels Thor could pull a 6/10, I wouldn't call that person a troll OR bash them for it. I've debated against a lot of people here that thinks Thor could pull a clean sweep against Hulk and I remained civil and did not call that person a troll or whatever even though I could post showings of Hulk caving Thor head in. Anything is debatable. Especially with power levels fluctuating per each writer.

Jesus Christ; it's like you didn't read a word I said.

Also, what Nem said.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
In a comicbook, heros WILL be written to win against overwelming odds. Superman is NOT the only hero that does it, but its ALL controlled by who the writer wants to win. If the writer wants wonderman to punch through trion juggernauts shield and ko him, then its going to happen in a comic, there are no writers here. You cannot say a character is allmighty when he is allowed to beat galactus but has lost to damage or WW. You cannot have one without the other. Superman fans on KMC think that a forum battle is the same as a comicbook battle they read. Example, john cena beats bigshow in the ring as a storyline, but then they all go out to eat and cena and show gets into it foreal and show breaks cena jaw.

One, you obviously didn't read it either, and two, you're missing the great, big, stinking point:

Most writers will never write Wonder Man doing ridiculous shit on a consistent basis.

They do, however, do that with Superman.

I should have expected as much from you, tbh.

Yes those writers will. They wrote spiderman beating firelord and a gas station explosion koing superman.

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Yes those writers will. They wrote spiderman beating firelord and a gas station explosion koing superman.

You're literally misreading my posts now. Stop being a dick, dude, and read the rules of the forum. Please.

Originally posted by NemeBro

I said that because of ABHI. It was obvious a joke post. Isnt that the same thread ABHI started off calling him trash.

Just checked. Yep, that's the thread ABHI started off calling Hulk trash tier. Lol

Originally posted by JBL THE GREAT
Yes those writers will. They wrote spiderman beating firelord and a gas station explosion koing superman.

So you got locked out of your other account and gave up on the forum, and the only reason you came back is to argue about Superman.

A Serious question..do you not have a life, ffs.

Originally posted by carver9
Just checked. Yep, that's the thread ABHI started off calling Hulk trash tier. Lol

So what's your excuse for all the other threads where you've done it, then?

Originally posted by -Pr-
Almost as fitting as Stilt's Freudian slip here:

Not a slip, I started calling it that after sawing that nude pic of Manhattan in Comic Questions thread.