Morg vs Aquaman

Started by zopzop3 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
What if Terrax fought WW in that same way?

What if we have a brawl thread where WW - the best h2h combatant in the herald tier - fights Terrax?

Would Terrax do better or worse than AM?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Do you read my posts?

I'm legitimately wondering if you do. lol

Wonder Woman wasn't brawling with an old friend, trying to reason with him. That was only in the short scuffle in JLA [where he used super-speed to close the distance and bullrush her.......] -- but the relevant fight is when she thought she was fighting Cheetah [a super-speed h2h fighter who Diana uses speed and agility against to block and dodge her attacks....btw....]. The fight ended with both of them on the ground.

Seriously, do you..even open....the...scans?

How you lost ground? You tried to defend Terrax losing to Ganymede as her being a skyfather hurting being, until I pointed out that she didn't use the sucker-punch skyfather hurting energy on Terrax, but simply beat his ass physically. Then you randomly brought up her 'hurting' Surfer (??), and also hiding the scan [???] where Surfer easily stops her and tells her he held back.

Now you're incoherently screaming "Pixie type fighter! pixie type fighter! Mongoose!". How about this -- Aquaman is not a slow retard that Wonder Woman can dance around, but a skilled, strong, fast combatant. Terrax, on the other hand, looks like a guy trying to catch his cat after 25 beers [stiltmanftw]

Furthermore...

you keep zop--zop--zop-ing around like a rabbit with this....

and since I already asked this repeatedly, I'll let somebody else ask it...


He would do at least as well as AM h2h vs WW. If all powers were in play and he was feeling sadistic, he'd force tons of sand/gravel into her body, killing her instantly.

Originally posted by zopzop
He would do at least as well as AM h2h vs WW. If all powers were in play and he was feeling sadistic, he'd force tons of sand/gravel into her body, killing her instantly.
Holy shit.

You think that Terrax would stalemate Wonder Woman in h2h and they'd both end up on the floor?

Oh, boy.

Battlezone? Can't wait for this.

We can have the battelzone split into two parts - h2h and all powers in play.

Wow.

So Terrax can stalemate WW in h2h? Nice 👆

All powers included seems to be what you're attempting to leave out. You're blatantly trying to move the goal posts. This isn't about Terrax, so why venture there? Should we bring Black Manta into this?

Originally posted by Philosophía
Holy shit.

You think that Terrax would stalemate Wonder Woman in h2h and they'd both end up on the floor?

Oh, boy.

Battlezone? Can't wait for this.

We can have the battelzone split into two parts - h2h and all powers in play.


Again what's the problem? He stalemated her for a few PANELS in a brawl. He punched Superman and sent him flying. What is so controversial about Terrax replicating these 'feats'?

I'm genuinely curious as to your answer. Because going by on panel power feats and fights, Terrax sh|ts all over AM.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again what's the problem? He stalemated her for a few PANELS in a brawl. He punched Superman and sent him flying. What is so controversial about Terrax replicating these 'feats'?

How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.

Terrax losing isn't a positive here.


I'm genuinely curious as to your answer. Because going by on panel power feats and fights, Terrax sh|ts all over AM.

So far, you have utterly failed to prove this.

Originally posted by panthergod
How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.


Except their opponents were fighting in two different styles. WW was brawling with AM. Ganymede was using her speed/skill to stay out of Terrax's reach.

So far, you have utterly failed to prove this.

Terrax fought a legit CL100 High Herald to standstill in a prolonged fight before being overwhelmed. A weakened Terrax was owning Firelord/Airwalker/Nova. A weakened Terrax couldn't be restrained by Firelord and AirWalker. A weakened Terrax took on the New Warriors and Fantastic Four armed with anti-Terrax weaponry by Reed and only lost when Silver Surfer stepped in. Terrax fought a twice Galactus amped Dazzler to a standstill inside a super massive black hole and only lost because he was exhausted (he'd been hiding in there for WEEKS to avoid Galactus' wrath).

Terrax has busted a planet on panel. He rocked an entire planet another time (Rom issue) leveling entire cities. He's lifted the entire island of Manhattan into space. He's hurled a small mountain range at Iron Man. His axe is strong and sharp enough to cut the Surfer's board in two and block attacks from beings like Tyrant. He's walked through heavy artillery fire from machine guns, tank shells, helicopter gunfire and was completely unfazed.

Originally posted by zopzop
Again what's the problem? He stalemated her for a few PANELS in a brawl. He punched Superman and sent him flying. What is so controversial about Terrax replicating these 'feats'?

I'm genuinely curious as to your answer. Because going by on panel power feats and fights, Terrax sh|ts all over AM.

So you're backing down from your position that Terrax would at least stalemate Wonder Woman in a brawl, or even beat her with the full powers? Shocking.

Aquaman didn't stalemate her for a few panels in a brawl - he fought her extensively [while she thought he was Cheetah] until they were both down. In another instance, he could physically grapple with her. In another, he use his super-speed to ram into her, with the lasso wrapped around his neck, before she could defend. Taken together, their peer-ness in this type of fight is well documented. Terrax, by comparison, was a 6 year old trying to act tough to his 16 year old sister.

I just demonstrated, with multiple posts, that Terrax comes out looking much worse against analogues in fights. The fact that you keep screaming the same things "Terrax STRONG! Aquaman WEAK!" is rather....discomforting. It's like I'm talking to a kid putting his fingers in his ears screaming "nanananana".

Are you a robot, by any chance, zop?

Hm.

Let's see...

Switch (zop.arguments)
{
Case "MORG>TERRAX>AQUAMAN LOLZ":
zop.Close();
break;

Case "PIXIE!MONGOOSE!"
zop.Close();
break;

Case "RepeatingPreviousBadArgumentsAndHopingPhilGetsBored"
zop.Close()
break;
}

Are you still here?

Except their opponents were fighting in two different styles. WW was brawling with AM. Ganymede was using her speed/skill to stay out of Terrax's reach.

string statement = "Aquaman does not suck as much as Terrax, so Wonder Woman wasn't able to simply dance around him";

try
{
zop.input(statement);
}

catch (zopexception)

{
BrainBox.Show("I.Cannot.Comprehend. MORG>TERRAX>AQUAMAN LOLZ."😉
}

Funny thing is that Philosophia here is the one turning this into a circular argument while pretending superiority. Terrax does not fight like Aquaman. We all know this. Since we all know this, we also know that he'd fight her the same way that he fought the Sentry, which was by using his cosmic powers. Powers capable of destroying planets.

What if Ganymede was able to defeat Aquaman? Any proof saying she couldn't? What if she were able to break even with Wonder Woman, or better yet defeat Wonder Woman? Any proof saying she couldn't?

Philosophia seems to have reverted to type by underhandedly calling Zop stupid, when in actuality seems to be the one lacking the ability to comprehend. All this in order to lowball Morg who doesn't fight like Aquaman either. What next? Aquaman beats a full powered Juggernaut because he doesn't fight like an MMA Champion?

Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

Originally posted by Juntai
Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

Long time no see Juntai, how you been?

Originally posted by panthergod
How about the fact that he explcilty FAILED to come even close to this level of performance against comparable-- actually, inferior-- opponents.

Terrax losing isn't a positive here.

So far, you have utterly failed to prove this.

What makes you think this? Terrax can and has cut entire planets in half. Can Aquaman do that? How would Aquaman manage to escape entrapment if he fought Terrax? If they fought on any planets surface, Terrax could probably crush Aquaman beneath the battlefield that they fought on, he has air superiority, long range sniper advantages. I can't see how Aquaman is his superior? Look man not being rude here, but If you aren't willing to see both sides, or have decided to lean too heavilly on one side shows a certain level of bias. It kind of compromises your entire stance.

Originally posted by Juntai
Who in their right mind would believe Ganymede is even remotely close to Wondy?

No one unwilling to to imagine it, would be my guess. As far as fictional characters go, anything is possible. This is something that we should keep in mind.

Ganymede managed to damage Tyrant, albeit that her staff was apparently fashioned to harm him, as all Spinsters were required to possess one to combat him.

But, we also saw her physically harm Terrax with strikes giving the impression that she would have been capable of harming anyone in Wonder Woman's weight class (Terrax is pretty durable).

The only times that her limits were truly etched in stone happened when she confronted Tyrant, and later Thanos. This could certainly place her within Wonder Woman's power range, so it isn't a totally outlandish notion.

Back to Morg vs Aquaman.

Who in their right mind would believe Aquaman is even remotely close to Morg?