Then there's the sword.
'Whatever's thrown at it, then doubles it'
'The harder the attack, the greater the response'
DS was defeated, by Superman using his superior speed (sound familiar?) and ending the fight when he had had enough:
In THIS thread, Cheetah is the one with the superior speed.
Match starts, and the character who speedblitzes Flashes slits Thor's throat.
Thor is toast.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Bfr to somewhere unpleasant.
Storms.
Crazy lightning.
Hammer throw.He has more ways to win.
All of which takes time.
The gap in perception speeds between the two is too vast. One speedblitzes Flash before he has a chance to react, the other.....
And now, she has a one-hit kill weapon, and a sword that amps her.
Is he more versatile? Yes, of course. 100% agree. He has tons of ways he COULD win.
They all involve Cheetah standing around waiting for him to do it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
All of which takes time.The gap in perception speeds between the two is too vast. One speedblitzes Flash before he has a chance to react, the other.....
And now, she has a one-hit kill weapon, and a sword that amps her.
Is he more versatile? Yes, of course. 100% agree. He has tons of ways he COULD win.
They all involve Cheetah standing around waiting for him to do it.
Fast enough to slice him not once, or twice, but several times. Whilst toying with him.
She's also been called as fast as Flash.
We also have the official rankings from DC which puts her at like #6 overall in the DCU.
She also fights evenly with WW, one of the best h2h combatants in the herald tier.
So that's character statements, combat feats, and official rankings terming her one of the fastest characters in the DCU.
One of those pieces of proof, sure, we disregard. Two? All three together? If Thor has all three, then sure, he might have a chance.
But just reacting to speedy characters isn't proof. Toying with speedy characters, with multiple attacks, is.
Moreover, you are missing the point that she has her claws coated in one hit kill weaponry that's specifically tailored for gods. And is now amped.
Did the characters Thor react to have such weaponry?
You cant use reacting to speedy characters as proof? Who said you cant use proof as proof?
Its also backed by showings of quick movement, fast perception, and fast reactionary perception. Thats with actual numbrs and or estimations.
He's not your run o the mill speedster and far from it, but some are even unexplainable based on his regular showings.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
You cant use reacting to speedy characters as proof? Who said you cant use proof as proof?Its also backed by showings of quick movement, fast perception, and fast reactionary perception. Thats with actual numbrs and or estimations.
He's not your run o the mill speedster and far from it, but some are even unexplainable based on his regular showings.
Well am just heading off any 'look at all these characters who have tagged Flash', in case you wanted to equate Cheetah to Grodd or Trickster or something.
And good to see that you're admitting he's not a speedster, and I'd far from it.
Cheetah ISa speedster.
Except like i said he actually has speed showings that are far beyond what he normally does. They even move towrds the realm of a speedster.
Im admiting that he is not your traditional speedster. I am however saying that he has no problem tagging and even outreacting actual speedsters. One doesnt have to be a traditional speedster to tag them.
Mr. Mind, is speed equalized?
Street levelers like Wolverine, Spiderman, etc. are easily faster than Thor.
This would be fair, if Cheetah purposely limits her speed to, like, Mongoose levels...and resorts to only hitting him with her tail or something.
With ToS and Godsword...she'd one shot him.
Mr. Mind, you're turning into Golgo. uhuh
Originally posted by Philosophía
Mr. Mind, is speed equalized?Street levelers like Wolverine, Spiderman, etc. are easily faster than Thor.
This would be fair, if Cheetah purposely limits her speed to, like, Mongoose levels...and resorts to only hitting him with her tail or something.
With ToS and Godsword...she'd one shot him.
Mr. Mind, you're turning into Golgo. uhuh
Wait till someone claims Thor has FTL reaction, then post flowery metaphor from Thor comics in the 60s as proof of feat
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except like i said he actually has speed showings that are far beyond what he normally does. They even move towrds the realm of a speedster.
Im admiting that he is not your traditional speedster. I am however saying that he has no problem tagging and even outreacting actual speedsters. One doesnt have to be a traditional speedster to tag them.
But as you say, even his high showings (beyond what he normally does, which I assume means 'getting owned by speedsters'😉 merely move towards the realm of a speedster.
So him tagging speedsters is PIS.
Here, Cheetah only needs to cut him once.
It can still be PIS, especially when we have many instances of speedsters slicing him up (Angela being another non speedster who cut him like a pig).
Batman has many instances of taking herald punches. He also has many instances of getting hurt by street level Jokers and Two Faces.
We're not going to argue he's a herald leveller are we?
And besides, I am using your own admissions. Thor's HIGHS, which are BEYOND his normal showings (as per you), only MOVE TOWARDS a speedster's realm.
They're not even in the same realm as a speedster, IOW. And that's his high showings.
Now he's facing a speedster in a forum fight. With one shot kill weaponry, and she's amped.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It can still be PIS, especially when we have many instances of speedsters slicing him up (Angela being another non speedster who cut him like a pig).Batman has many instances of taking herald punches. He also has many instances of getting hurt by street level Jokers and Two Faces.
We're not going to argue he's a herald leveller are we?
And besides, I am using your own admissions. Thor's HIGHS, which are BEYOND his normal showings (as per you), only MOVE TOWARDS a speedster's realm.
They're not even in the same realm as a speedster, IOW. And that's his high showings.
Now he's facing a speedster in a forum fight. With one shot kill weaponry, and she's amped.
Other than bullet timing or lazer dodging, has he thrown objects at lightspeed? Has he ever even come close to lightspeed + perception?
Like her he also has one move or one shot capability. And his is long range. He can see her from the get. How good is her eyesight? I know she has the definite speed advantage, but 5 football fields is pretty long.
Originally posted by MrMindNah.
Wait till someone claims Thor has FTL reaction, then post flowery metaphor from Thor comics in the 60s as proof of feat
Thor fans know that if they get into an argument about Thor's speed, they'd get stomped. They've been so in every forum they've been, and they now know their place.
About....3 years ago, I think (though given how time passes, I might be off on the timeline)...I put the battlezone challenge with a ban on the line that Thor is not faster than street levelers.
The silence was deafening.
They're like carver....say random shit when it doesn't matter, but if shit hits the fan, they go mute.