Originally posted by celeyhyga17What common ground?
In general? We have to find a common ground.
Im saying he can be faster than street. Waaay faster especially if the story calls for it. It's happened many times before. It will keep happening if the writer calls for it. Not my fault it happens, but it does..I said pm or reply via thread.
Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers.
There.
How is that not clear?
Again with the vague "not muh fault...teh writers...muh fault"?
What the f*ck are you blabbering about?
Or, wait....are you hoping to find 2-3 feats in his entire history of 57 years and tens of thousands of appearances that you think street levelers can't replicate, and call Thor faster than them?
lol?
Since your brain doesn't work on simple sentences like:
"Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers. "
Let's try...
If you find me 20 feats, out of 6 decades and thousands of appearances, that surpass street levelers speed feats, I will self-ban for a year.
If you can't you will self-ban for a year.
Originally posted by -K-M-It's been a while since I made celey my b*tch, and made him forcefully support Superman for a month after losing the bz:
Well that escalated quickly.
Time to pull my whip out again.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Nah, bro.
And Batman has herald level durability. Does this mean in a forum fight he can trade punches with Thor?He can show herald level durability, especially if the story calls for it. It's happened many times before. It will keep happening if the writer calls for it. Not my fault it happens, but it does.
Batman can take Thor's hammer.
It will keep happening if the writer calls for it. Not your fault it happens, but it does..
Escalating only in his mind.
Im smiling while having my morning machiatto. People get so upset about nothing.
@phil
And again I maintain he has the speed and reaction to contend with speedsters (just like in thos thread) when he has to.
How about let'd make it plain and simple.
U keep saying he's slow, hes street, his this, yadda, yadda, yadda.
I plainly say he has superspeed. Period.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17Running away, baby boy?
Escalating only in his mind.Im smiling while having my morning machiatto.
@phil
And again I maintain he has the speed and reaction to contend with speedsters (just like in thos thread) when he has to.How about let'd make it plain and simple.
U keep saying he's slow, hes street, his this, yadda, yadda, yadda.I plainly say he has superspeed. Period.
What the f*ck does 'having superspeed' gotta do with feats?
Wolverine, Spiderman and many more have 'superspeed'.
Again:
Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers.
and
If you find me 20 feats, out of 6 decades and thousands of appearances, that surpass street levelers speed feats, I will self-ban for a year.
If you can't you will self-ban for a year.
Do you accept, or will you continue to try and look like the cool guy, while you're crying in your morning machiatto?
It can't get any more clear than direct comparisons.
I've set the bar so low that I'm asking you to show me just 20 feats ever since 1962 (!!!) that make him faster than street levelers. Thousands upon thousands of appearance.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆
I mean....Luke Cage has super strength, doesn't mean he's out-lifting Hulk.There are degrees to it. And Phildo is saying sure, Thor has superspeed, but it isn't consistently higher than street levellers.
In THIS VERY THREAD he's arguing that Thor maybe would be able to handle Cheetah.
I'm not even asking him about that. Even though I should.
I'm saying that he is consistently not faster than street levelers, and that Thor doesn't have 20 feats in his entire history that are above what streets have done.
Imagine arguing a character can fight Cheetah, a Flash-level opponent, but being afraid that you can't show 20 feats that surpasses streets.
This is....crazy, lmao.
"Running away baby boy?" Lol.
Professor of Triggerednometry strikes again. Wutever makes u happy.
Again. Your "Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers." is not jiving with what im saying here. Im not sure wby u keep shoehorning this stance.
Im telling u straight up he has superspeed/superreaction. He can achieve speeds way beyond streets if he has to. It's plain and simple.
You have this uncessant and unhealthy need to keep him at street for some reason. Im saying he is beyond them based on things he's done.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Angela is a speedster of sorts... Or pseudo-speedster if i may.
They also made it a point of him being weak at the time after battling Heven's army..Other than bullet timing or lazer dodging, has he thrown objects at lightspeed? Has he ever even come close to lightspeed + perception?
Like her he also has one move or one shot capability. And his is long range. He can see her from the get. How good is her eyesight? I know she has the definite speed advantage, but 5 football fields is pretty long.
Yes, a PSEUDO-speedster (you may). Cheetah IS a speedster.
Am using your own words and arguments....
You said Thor's HIGHS, which are BEYOND his normal showings, give him feats that move TOWARDS the realm of speedsters. So even his highs are still below what a speedster's low showings are, at the lower bound of this realm. Approaching, sure, but still below the lows.
So to be consistent, if you are using Thor's highest speed showings (which approach a speedster's realm of showings), then we should use Cheetah's highest speed showings, no? Or does it only work for one side?
As for the vision....yeah, not sure what this is going to help with. Just because I can see a gun pointed at me doesn't mean I am able to dodge the bullet.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
"Running away baby boy?" Lol.
Professor of Triggerednometry strikes again. Wutever makes u happy.Again. Your "Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers." is not jiving with what im saying here. Im not sure wby u keep shoehorning this stance.
Im telling u straight up he has superspeed/superreaction He can achieve speeds way beyond streets if he had to. It's plain and simple.
You have this unhealthy need to keep him at street for some reason. Im saying he is beyond them based on things he's done.
And Batman is low/mid herald, achieving FTL feats if he had to as per the writer.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Agree to what?
Why would that be? In comics thats not always the case. Wut a weird thing to say.
Erm, because you said it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Except like i said he actually has speed showings that are far beyond what he normally does. They even move towrds the realm of a speedster.
And I agree. So we both agree.
This is not a comic. This is a forum fight. PIS is stripped out.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17You're in a thread arguing that Thor would be able to handle Cheetah [a Flash-level being], yet you concede that Thor is not consistently faster than street levelers and that you can't provide 20 feats in a 57 years of publishing history of the character with thousands and thousands of appearances that surpasses what street levelers have done.
Again. Your "Thor is consistently portrayed as not faster than street levelers." is not jiving with what im saying here. Im not sure wby u keep shoehorning this stance.Im telling u straight up he has superspeed/superreaction. He can achieve speeds way beyond streets if he has to. It's plain and simple.
I'm getting second-hand embarrassment just from reading your posts, knowing that others also do.
What Darksaint is trying to explain to you -- with an iron patience -- is that a same case can be made for Batman being a low-herald based on feats under certain writers, but we're not retarded to argue that.
We're not.
Ughh..
As if it wasnt simple enuff. I am saying he is not portrayed as a speedster. He has however, showeed that he could contend with very fast individuals(like a Cheetah)if he has to. All this based on what he's done in comics. I even went further and maintain that he has superspeed and or supereaction. Again based on comics. Its very simple.