Injustice Superman vs Unworthy Thor

Started by carver98 pages

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Saying that Unworthy Thor would survive in the Sun just fine, based on him flying around looking for Mjolnir, is disingenuous.

He was hurting, his eyes were roasting, his mom was worried that he would kill himself.

Later on, when Daredevil had nailed him to the World Tree, his flesh was burning and he was covered in burns. It was hardly a walk in the park for him.

Read back on the thread, please.

Celey showed you a Thor that wasnt worthy of Mjlonir diving into the sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Saying that Unworthy Thor would survive in the Sun just fine, based on him flying around looking for Mjolnir, is disingenuous.

He was hurting, his eyes were roasting, his mom was worried that he would kill himself.

Later on, when Daredevil had nailed him to the World Tree, his flesh was burning and he was covered in burns. It was hardly a walk in the park for him.

Read back on the thread, please.


I dun think whoever said that was actually being "disingenious". Obviously the Sun is not a nice place to be. It is the Sun after all. Stay in there long enuff and u will get fried. In Thor's case however he went in there for weeks everyday scouring the damned thing for pieces of his hammer. He would do it until his fauxjolnirs would start to melt and his eyes would start to burn etc... He went in there in his own volition. And then he literally has a long history of star diving and it not really being a detriment to him. When someone says "he would be fine in there", he would be all things considered. I think it was just a general description of how he deals with something like this.

Originally posted by carver9
Celey showed you a Thor that wasnt worthy of Mjlonir diving into the sun.

That's not the one shown in the OP. Moreover, we use the most current versions.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I dun think whoever said that was actually being "disingenious". Obviously the Sun is not a nice place to be. It is the Sun after all. Stay in there long enuff and u will get fried. In Thor's case however he went in there for weeks everyday scouring the damned thing for pieces of his hammer. He would do it until his fauxjolnirs would start to melt and his eyes would start to burn etc... He went in there in his own volition. And then he literally has a long history of star diving and it not really being a detriment to him. When someone says "he would be fine in there", he would be all things considered. I think it was just a general description of how he deals with something like this.

Going in there of his own volition =/= surviving just fine. Carver comes onto KMC and posts every day of his own volition, doesn't mean he doesn't get roasted.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Going in there of his own volition =/= surviving just fine. Carver comes onto KMC and posts every day of his own volition, doesn't mean he doesn't get roasted.

Err..
Goin in the Sun of his own volition as in it wasnt much of a danger to him at all. Provided of course he doesnt sit in there without ever getting out.

He was just right as rain as soon as he flew out. Not even a hint of singeing... Not even his eyes.
Which brings us back to could he get out? He has done some crazy travel w/o a hammer. He's done it in the past and with Aaron especially. Brings us to other things. Does he have fauxjolnirs as Unworthy? Or... Is it just the pic w/o hammers? Does he have Toothgrinder? It could be argued that his goat was standard equipment. It was basically with him everywhere as Unworthy.

If Batman doesn't get the Batmobile in forum fights (despite it...you know, being the Batmobile), I doubt an abstract level being like Toothgrinder is allowed.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
If Batman doesn't get the Batmobile in forum fights (despite it...you know, being the Batmobile), I doubt an abstract level being like Toothgrinder is allowed.

I guess.

But this goat was with him almost everywhere. Not only as a companion and a means of travel, but he was a weapon.
Hammerless Unworthy was almost like Beastmaster or a hunter class from WoW with the way he used Toothgrinder.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I guess.

But this goat was with him almost everywhere. Not only as a companion and a means of travel, but he was a weapon.
Hammerless Unworthy was almost like Beastmaster or a hunter class from WoW with the way he used Toothgrinder.

....

You're acting like Bruce doesn't/can't use the Bat-vehicles as weaponry, call them to him when he needs them, control them like a Beastmaster, use their onboard weapons remotely etc.

Of course he uses the batmobile. He uses his batplanes too. Batjets... Batcycles... Batboats... Batthingamajigs..

And he uses them as weapons. Not just as modes of transport.

Yet, forum rules mean he's not getting access to them.

Edit: but if you think he needs it in this thread, says a lot.

Right.
Just making a point. He doesnt use multiple goats. I wouldnt say his boat is with him everywhere. The goat however...

Never said he needs the goat.. Said it could be argued that the goat was basically standard equip.. Funnily enuff...

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Right.
Just making a point. He doesnt use multiple goats. I wouldnt say his boat is with him everywhere. The goat however...

Never said he needs the goat.. Said it could be argued that the goat was basically standard equip.. Funnily enuff...

The point is moot, however. Forum rules are pretty clear. It can't be argued that the goat is standard equipment, certainly not if we follow the rules (not that you have been, as forum rules are also pretty clear on which versions we use lol).

Rules/Standard Fight Settings
In most cases, the poster who originally set up the versus fight determines the conditions of the fight itself (ex. If a character like Superman is in a thread, it'll be assumed that it's the current version unless mentioned otherwise by the thread starter

Current Version of Unworthy Thor =/= Worthy Thor feats, or even Young Thor. We use the latest versions (yes, I know Thor is now Worthy, so was using the latest versions of Unworthy). OP even has a picture clearly detailing which Thor he is using. IF you wanted to argue it, then we could argue that we don't use Destroyer Arm Thor, but Black Uru Arm Thor, as that is what's in the OP.

Standard Equipment
Each side starts out with the equipment that they normally and have been shown to consistently carry on them.....Beta Ray Bill would not have Scuttlebutt and Batman would not have the Batmobile, unless otherwise noted in the open post.

Unless you are going to show me Unworthy Thor normally and consistently CARRYING Toothgrinder, your point is moot.

Wouldn't Superman flying Thor to the sun count as a self bfr for both? Does anyone have scans of him tossing someone from a planet into the sun?

Originally posted by carver9
Wouldn't Superman flying Thor to the sun count as a self bfr for both?

No.

Because Superman can still return under his own power.

I guess its up to the op.

Dont see why Unworthy w/uru arm cant draw feats from young unworthy. Plus the arm can be seen as an upgrade of sorts. Maybe even draw feats from hammerless Thor or Thor not using mjolnir. Essentially Thor w/o hammer anyway. Theres no fundamental change in his power except for hammer or hammers.. *shrug*

Except for flight 👆

But we have a solid showing for the exact Thor being used in the thread, roasting in the sun.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
No.

Because Superman can still return under his own power.


It would still be self bfr. He can't take off to the sun anymore than Bruce can run to the Batcave to get special tech.

Originally posted by darthgoober
It would still be self bfr. He can't take off to the sun anymore than Bruce can run to the Batcave to get special tech.

Exactly. Its bfring himself

Originally posted by darthgoober
It would still be self bfr. He can't take off to the sun anymore than Bruce can run to the Batcave to get special tech.

Check the rules.

And also check the battlefield stips.