Originally posted by darthgooberI would agree with this if it wasn't such a poorly thought-out comparison. Superman (specially after being so close to the sun) will make the trip and back under the ten minutes mark or w/e it is for a bfr win.
It would still be self bfr. He can't take off to the sun anymore than Bruce can run to the Batcave to get special tech.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
I would agree with this if it wasn't such a poorly thought-out comparison. Superman (specially after being so close to the sun) will make the trip and back under the ten minutes mark or w/e it is for a bfr win.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Because by this logic, I mean....how much does Hulk/Juggernaut etc weigh?If all it takes is a removal from the battlefield (which in 2D is only 500m in width), then all it takes is a simple punch out of the ring.
When we know these herald type guys can easily punch their opponent MILES.
Originally posted by darthgoober
There's a difference between self bfr and regular bfr. If some else removes you from the battlefield you're allowed to come back, but you're never allowed to leave. Attempts at BFR are allowed under forum rules by default, self bfr isn't.
That's why I told you to check the battlefield.
He's not leaving the battlefield.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Yes technically. But unless I'm mistaken most people correctly assume that thread starters who feature Nightcrawler want him to have use of his teleportation powers even without a specific thread stipulation allowing it.
So yeah, EVERY single thread with Kurt ends with an automatic loss when he teleports. Good call.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Check it.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So yeah, EVERY single thread with Kurt ends with an automatic loss when he teleports. Good call.
Why are you keep using the faulty comparison of someone going back to their bases to pick up equipment with Superman flying Thor to the sun and leaving him there?
At best you'd be arguing a stalemate since both left the battlefield, but that would say a lot about your confidence in this Thor.
That's without getting into 'the spirit of the thread'. I'm sure that this Superman flying someone who is not subduing to him to the sun is more akin to the spirit of the thread than Nightcrawler teleporting back to the X mansion for some Jean cake mid-battle imo, even though you want to make those cases seem analogous.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why are you keep using the faulty comparison of someone going back to their bases to pick up equipment with Superman flying Thor to the sun and leaving him there?At best you'd be arguing a stalemate since both left the battlefield, but that would say a lot about your confidence in this Thor.
That's without getting into 'the spirit of the thread'. I'm sure that this Superman flying someone who is not subduing to him to the sun is more akin to the spirit of the thread than Nightcrawler teleporting back to the X mansion for some Jean cake mid-battle imo, even though you want to make those cases seem analogous.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Sorry, my mind was geared more towards the "sundip" aspect of visiting the sun. But the example still works to an extent, because Nightcrawler's not allowed to take teleport his forum opponents into the danger room either. It's stated clear as day in the forum rules that combatants who leave the field of combat on purpose forfeit the match.
So why are you arguing about rules being 'clear as day' in one post, then 'spirit of the thread' in another? Clear as day, Kurt is leaving the battlefield EVERY time he uses his teleportation powers.
That's without getting into the whole 'how is this leaving the battlefield when no battlefield is stipulated' point.
Why is the battlefield only limited to the planet? Are you saying if it's not stipulated, and Colossus manages to throw Hulk 501metres away, he wins?
Or if Colossus steps a distance of 501 m away from Hulk, he self BFRs? Where do the rules stand on the HEIGHT distance?
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
So why are you arguing about rules being 'clear as day' in one post, then 'spirit of the thread' in another? Clear as day, Kurt is leaving the battlefield EVERY time he uses his teleportation powers.That's without getting into the whole 'how is this leaving the battlefield when no battlefield is stipulated' point.
Why is the battlefield only limited to the planet? Are you saying if it's not stipulated, and Colossus manages to throw Hulk 501metres away, he wins?
Or if Colossus steps a distance of 501 m away from Hulk, he self BFRs? Where do the rules stand on the HEIGHT distance?
As for why it'd be limited to one planet... the fact that a "battle field" is acknowledged in the forum rules both as something that someone can be removed from to lose or forfeit the fight by leaving certainly suggest that there's some limit in the minds of the guys who wrote the rules and it doesn't seem like something that's even worth specifically mentioning being limited if it's larger than the planet it's starting on.
Originally posted by Adam Grimes
Why are you keep using the faulty comparison of someone going back to their bases to pick up equipment with Superman flying Thor to the sun and leaving him there?At best you'd be arguing a stalemate since both left the battlefield, but that would say a lot about your confidence in this Thor.
That's without getting into 'the spirit of the thread'. I'm sure that this Superman flying someone who is not subduing to him to the sun is more akin to the spirit of the thread than Nightcrawler teleporting back to the X mansion for some Jean cake mid-battle imo, even though you want to make those cases seem analogous.
So with a thread with someone fighting a teleporter, I can say that person grabs whomever, teleport them inside of a volcano and teleports back to the battlefield? Sentry has shown the ability to teleport as well. He grabs Superman by the wrist and teleport him to a nearby red sun and teleports back to the battlefield. How far does this go?