Originally posted by Damborgson
[B]Hmmm interesting fight.MMH should win, but the team can potentially trouble him.
Seal him in a bubble and flame him down, assuming the thing can hold him off momentarily.
Realistically though, MMH should be able to shut all their minds down.
Jean couldnt sense Sue through her shields or afgect her telepathically. Onslaughts TP strom that was devastating others had zero effect on Sue throigh her shield. Why would Jonn' be more successful?
Sue puts up shields around team and Jonn's TP is sona non gradda. He isnt shutting down anyone.
Originally posted by playa1258
I'm not serious but MMH takes it due to being more powerful than the FF4.
Sue's shields have dealt with people a lot more powerful than MMH
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Maybe Jonn' can beat celestials too and make them have to reform
Originally posted by beatboks
Jean couldnt sense Sue through her shields or afgect her telepathically. Onslaughts TP strom that was devastating others had zero effect on Sue throigh her shield. Why would Jonn' be more successful?Sue puts up shields around team and Jonn's TP is sona non gradda. He isnt shutting down anyone.
I would like to see this encounter between Jean and Sue. Because the only one I remember was a then recently resurrected Jean w/o TP only TK having a confrontation with Sue. I also remember Onslaught's storm being a psionic hurricane meaning that Cable was able to block it with just TK and Susan with her shields. Not a pure mental assault.
Emma was able to use TP on Sue through her shield.
So was the Futurist.
MM will TP the F4 unless he freaks out from seeing the flames of the Human Torch which is a decent possibility.
Originally posted by Supermutant
I would like to see this encounter between Jean and Sue. Because the only one I remember was a then recently resurrected Jean w/o TP only TK having a confrontation with Sue. I also remember Onslaught's storm being a psionic hurricane meaning that Cable was able to block it with just TK and Susan with her shields. Not a pure mental assault.Emma was able to use TP on Sue through her shield.
So was the Futurist.
MM will TP the F4 unless he freaks out from seeing the flames of the Human Torch which is a decent possibility.
Well if she didnt have TP why does she state she should have sensed her with her TP which was why she didnt believe they were human and therfore the real FF
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/4/41801/843754-840873_invisiblewoman9_super.jpg
Psi lord was also unable to read her mind unless she lowered her shields. He dragged out a battle deliberately making her use them as much as possible knowing at the time she couldnt maintain them long
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1790245-843781_iwvspl_super.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/7/78977/1790246-843782_iwvspl2_super.jpg
Also X4 (where Emma TPd her thru shield) if I'm not mistaken isnt canon.