Philosophía
"The devil made me do it"
Originally posted by darthgoober
I never said anything about an off button. I'm in no way acting like it's impossible that a character who can control a magic hammer with his mind could hold onto the thing and use his mind to create the illusion that he's physically swinging the thing, I'm simply saying that it's kind of an "out there" interpretation when one sees an image of someone like Thor swinging a hammer. But to each his own, you do you.Didn't you say that he was flying when he preformed the feat? He wasn't doing the helicopter thing where he holds it over his head, and he wasn't holding on after throwing it, he was just flying in a circle while commanding the hammer to dig a trench or something to that effect, correct? Thus he was actually flying without the hammer and damn sure could have thrown it and stayed away from the crowd. And if he wasn't flying without using the hammer, it means he was on foot and ran a circle around Quicksilver.
Thor can spin his hammer to dig the trench and also fly.
This:
....is not him moving on foot 😐
Look, Goob -- honestly, stick to PMing Carver or read some comics, because this goalpost moving was quite embarrassing.
Your first position was that only Jane has the type of control Thor does -- showing a lack of knowledge.
Once I showed you it does, then you went to "he only uses mental control when he doesn't have the hammer in his hand".
Once scans were shown that mental control doesn't have anything to do with the hammer in his hand or not, you went "yeah, but this....uh...satisfy my personal take" [which, and I say this with all my love, I don't give two shits about].
On the topic of Quicksilver, you have no idea what decade the comic even takes place, assuming it's the 80s. You have no idea about Quicksilver, in general. You have no idea of the context of that comic so you throw random shit at the wall hoping it stick, desperately. "Why did Thor not throw the hammer doe?!"
You have no idea of the feats posted in the thread. I casually pull random feats of Deathstroke shitting all over Thor's feat in direct comparison to a superior speedster like Wonder Woman, or Wally, or Bart, or multiple streets doing it, against speedsters orders of magnitude superior to classic quicksilver, and you go quiet.
As I said -- keep PMing people that you feel need your help to feed your fragile ego, because this is just public humiliation at this point.
To reiterate:
Thor used flight to circle around the crowd containing [the mind-affected, grounded within the hundreds of people] bottom of the barrel silver age Quicksilver -- that's not being shown as faster. I expect Iron Fist, Spiderman [who literally swings at mach speeds: https://imgur.com/knRCLZl], Deathstroke and a shitload of others to, if given the benefit of flight, opponent being mind-altered, opponent being crowded, and a sentient hammer that they can mentally command to be able to easily """outspeed""" and do the same thing.
I'd legit not even include this in a respectable street respect thread [assuming they get a one issue power-up where they get flight and mjolnir] -- that's how weak it is.
In terms of actual speed, you have stuff like Deathstroke being portrayed in direct hand to hand combat speed as maybe even faster than Wonder Woman in the 90s:
https://imgur.com/a/PvBqRyC
That is far more direct [no flight, no hammer, no mind-control, no impediments] and considerably more impressive. There's dozens others -- him simply reacting to Wally is far above what Thor did considering the gulf in speed between classic qs and the actual speedsters. And this is run of the mill stuff for him. Nightwing has tied up a speeding Wally, Batman has caught a speeding Barry and Bart, and there's plenty of other feats that have been covered both from the streets and from Thor that are more impressive than his 'fly in a circle' shit. Which gets me back to -- not even top 10 -- actually, I wouldn't even put it top 20, considering the crazy shit streets have done in general, even ignoring showings against speedsters.
