--- Street levelers vs Thor --- Speed comparison

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Doth my eyes deceive me? Do comparable speed fts vs Thor unite the Bubs and the Webheads alike?

And there came a day unlike any other, when KMC's mightiest posters were united against a common threat!

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Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Earth-11035.


Oh u mean up until when Odin puts everything back to normal? That reality if it stayed that way, was prolly an alternate outcome. In any case, that's pretty much 616 Thor.

He remembers what happened even when things were returned to normal. Heck even Jane remembers Loki getting tossed back to Asgard. And finally Odin himself praises Thor for his "sacrifice" when he returns to Asgard.

Man Thor is slow as ****

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And there came a day unlike any other, when KMC's mightiest posters were united against a common threat!

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Adding this quote to my signature soon as I remember how to do it

I think for fairness sake, before the mods give a decision, those siding with Thor should have their say.

In short, that Thor have consistent showings beyond what streets achieve.

And I don't mean the odd 'Thor has no trouble tagging Spidey', because that's NOT beyond what a street can achieve - Wolverine does the same, after all.

Nor do I mean statements like 'Thor moves at blinding speeds' or whatever, because again, streets can ALSO perform the same (as we have seen).

So it has to be something that if we replaced Thor with another street, it would be unheard of.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
And there came a day unlike any other, when KMC's mightiest posters were united against a common threat!

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I think for fairness sake, before the mods give a decision, those siding with Thor should have their say.

In short, that Thor have consistent showings beyond what streets achieve.

And I don't mean the odd 'Thor has no trouble tagging Spidey', because that's NOT beyond what a street can achieve - Wolverine does the same, after all.

Nor do I mean statements like 'Thor moves at blinding speeds' or whatever, because again, streets can ALSO perform the same (as we have seen).

So it has to be something that if we replaced Thor with another street, it would be unheard of.


I seriously doubt that the mods will make anything resembling an actual ruling in regards to assigning any specific level of super speed regarding Thor. If they did they'd then be asked to make any number of similar rulings about other characters too. Historically they'll only rule that a character either has or doesn't have super speed and leave the "level" of super speed possessed by the character open to debate/discussion.

Originally posted by darthgoober
I seriously doubt that the mods will make anything resembling an actual ruling in regards to assigning any specific level of super speed regarding Thor. If they did they'd then be asked to make any number of similar rulings about other characters too. Historically they'll only rule that a character either has or doesn't have super speed and leave the "level" of super speed possessed by the character open to debate/discussion.

Perhaps. Perhaps not. We have rulings on Flash 'possessing that level of speed', so it is not unheard of.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Perhaps. Perhaps not. We have rulings on Flash 'possessing that level of speed', so it is not unheard of.

Even Flash they don't assign a specific level to though, they just say that he'll use his speed. I mean it's a new day so you may very well be right, I was just pointing out that it's most likely a long shot. The simple knowledge that such a ruling would mean that there'd be similar threads for other characters will likely drive them away from such an idea. Just think about it, I think 10% of relevant appearances was the number you yourself personally cited as a fair way to judge Thor's speed... can you imagine such a thing to someone like Supes? The guy probably has 8,000 canon appearances, just imagine vetoing any of his speed feats of his that can come close to being matched by the top streets and then trying to set up an "average" based upon 10% of what's left. He'd need like 800 solid, non flight aided quantifiable feats beyond the BEST of guys like Spidey, Deathstroke, Cap, and Bats just to prove that his super speed went beyond "street level". The whole thing would end up devolving into a mess almost immediately.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Even Flash they don't assign a specific level to though, they just say that he'll use his speed. I mean it's a new day so you may very well be right, I was just pointing out that it's most likely a long shot. The simple knowledge that such a ruling would mean that there'd be similar threads for other characters will likely drive them away from such an idea. Just think about it, I think 10% of relevant appearances was the number you yourself personally cited as a fair way to judge Thor's speed... can you imagine such a thing to someone like Supes? The guy probably has 8,000 canon appearances, just imagine vetoing any of his speed feats of his that can come close to being matched by the top streets and then trying to set up an "average" based upon 10% of what's left. He'd need like 800 solid, non flight aided quantifiable feats beyond the BEST of guys like Spidey, Logan, Cap, and Bats just to prove that his super speed went beyond "street level". The whole thing would end up devolving into a mess almost immediately.

The difference being, with Thor his best showings are analogous to what a street can do.

Superman? Not so much.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The difference being, with Thor his best showings are analogous to what a street can do.

Superman? Not so much.


I don't picture Captain America or Batman being able to dig a large trench around a speeding Quicksilver before he can escape, but to each his own...

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't picture Captain America or Batman being able to dig a large trench around a speeding Quicksilver before he can escape, but to each his own...

Ok.

Gotta agree with Saint here on that one

Speed like these:

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't picture Captain America or Batman being able to dig a large trench around a speeding Quicksilver before he can escape, but to each his own...

Thor dug a trench. Superman put together a ****ing moon in seconds.

https://i.postimg.cc/DfjfVd2T/image.jpg

So its one thing to say he has a minor level of superspeed. Bug to say he can react to a Superman level speedster? Nonsense

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor dug a trench. Superman put together a ****ing moon in seconds.

https://i.postimg.cc/DfjfVd2T/image.jpg

So its one thing to say he has a minor level of superspeed. Bug to say he can react to a Superman level speedster? Nonsense

Yeah that speed feat is hilariously beyond light speed. I Can't even deny how impressive that was

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor dug a trench. Superman put together a ****ing moon in seconds.

https://i.postimg.cc/DfjfVd2T/image.jpg

So its one thing to say he has a minor level of superspeed. Bug to say he can react to a Superman level speedster? Nonsense


Did you see me compare Thor's level of speed to Supes's... no, you didn't. I simply pointed to Thor hemming in a speeding Quicksilver as something beyond "street level" super speed because DS said that the speed feats of the top street level guys are analogous with Thor's best.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you see me compare Thor's level of speed to Supes's... no, you didn't. I simply pointed to Thor hemming in a speeding Quicksilver as something beyond "street level" super speed because DS said that the speed feats of the top street level guys are analogous with Thor's best.

We've derailed this long enough, we can take this to PMs if needed.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
We've derailed this long enough, we can take this to PMs if needed.

Is it really derailing the thread? I mean the thread is about how Thor's speed should be viewed so everything we're talking about is pretty on-topic.

Originally posted by darthgoober
Did you see me compare Thor's level of speed to Supes's... no, you didn't. I simply pointed to Thor hemming in a speeding Quicksilver as something beyond "street level" super speed because DS said that the speed feats of the top street level guys are analogous with Thor's best.

One feat nearly 50 years doesn't becomes the norm when we see his feats matched by speed of street level characters time and again.. Silver age was wacky like that, no writer worth his salt would show Thor doing that to Quicksilver now.