--- Street levelers vs Thor --- Speed comparison · Comic Book 'Versus' Forum

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by abhilegend
One feat nearly 50 years doesn't becomes the norm when we see his feats matched by speed of street level characters time and again.. Silver age was wacky like that, no writer worth his salt would show Thor doing that to Quicksilver now.

The difference between "1" and "0" is infinite mathematically. I'd have no problem with people saying that MOST of Thor's speed feats can be matched by street level guys, but the contention in recent times has been that Thor doesn't have ANY feats beyond the street level guys and that position is clearly faulty.

AlbertoJohnAvil Restricted

Originally posted by darthgoober
The difference between "1" and "0" is infinite mathematically. I'd have no problem with people saying that MOST of Thor's speed feats can be matched by street level guys, but the contention in recent times has been that Thor doesn't have ANY feats beyond the street level guys and that position is clearly faulty.

Mind showing some examples?

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Mind showing some examples?

The one we've been talking about(that even abhi acknowledges) when Thor dug a large trench around a bunch of people that included Quicksilver before any of them could react/escape.

LordGod Shaper of Reality

What do the Thor fans think? Considering everything that has been posted here, where do you guys think is a fair place to rank his fighting speed on average?

Because from the outside looking in, his fighting speed appears to be overwhelmingly street tier for the most part, so I'm honestly wondering.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by LordGod
What do the Thor fans think? Considering everything that has been posted here, where do you guys think is a fair place to rank his fighting speed on average?
Because from the outside looking in, his fighting speed appears to be overwhelmingly street tier for the most part, so I'm honestly wondering.

He's as fast as the story needs him to be. He plays down to lower levels, but has no problem fighting top end speedsters.

He also has the occasional feat that a street will never be able to do.

darthgoober Senior Member

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's as fast as the story needs him to be. He plays down to lower levels, but has no problem fighting top end speedsters.
He also has the occasional feat that a street will never be able to do.

Hey Celey I've noticed you actually going to the trouble of posting feats for Thor but I think you've forgotten a decent one. I don't remember the exact details, but during one of Thor's fights with Firelord it was narrated that they were fighting too fast for the eye to see. Not that one or both of them made a single fast maneuver or anything like that, but that they were actually fighting at that speed(at least briefly). Not sure which one of their fights it was and I don't remember the exact scene so I might be mixing up details, but it seems like the kind of thing you might want to check out.

LordGod Shaper of Reality

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
He's as fast as the story needs him to be. He plays down to lower levels, but has no problem fighting top end speedsters.
He also has the occasional feat that a street will never be able to do.

Are his higher end speed showings of sufficient quantity to outweigh the abundance of streetlevel speed showings though?

The "he's as fast as he needs to be" thing sounds good and all, but it isn't exactly usable in forum fights. I'm asking for a quantifiable average in other words.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

@goober
Cant recall that Firelord one. 😮

Originally posted by LordGod
Are his higher end speed showings of sufficient quantity to outweigh the abundance of streetlevel speed showings though?
The "he's as fast as he needs to be" thing sounds good and all, but it isn't exactly usable in forum fights. I'm asking for a quantifiable average in other words.

Sufficient quantity hmm..
Can we say the same for "Speedsters" who get tagged? What's the numbers on them getting tagged by street level or written down so streets can play with them? Honest question.

Welp... He has done things that street level can never replicate. Im not talking about the dime a dozen bullet timin and lazer dodgin feats.

LordGod Shaper of Reality

Seems like you're trying to answer my question..... by dodging my question. 😕

This thread, and my questions, are about THOR, and THOR alone.

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by LordGod
Seems like you're trying to answer my question..... by dodging my question. 😕
This thread, and my questions, are about THOR, and THOR alone.

Not dodging. In reality it's a tough question. Im not gonna sit and examine every issue Thor has ever appeared in.
So now if I posed that same question, how many times have "speedsters" been tagged by streets or played down to streets? See wut im sayin?

And the point that ive reiterated at nauseum doesn't really match with your question. One can keep asking the same question ure asking, but I've always said that he has done things streets can never match speedwise. I'm talking about so far beyond above them that it would be silly to characterize him at street. How can he be characterized at street level when that is a fact?

Quick Freeze GLC Memeber

Originally posted by darthgoober
I don't remember the exact details, but during one of Thor's fights with Firelord it was narrated that they were fighting too fast for the eye to see. Not that one or both of them made a single fast maneuver or anything like that, but that they were actually fighting at that speed(at least briefly). Not sure which one of their fights it was and I don't remember the exact scene so I might be mixing up details, but it seems like the kind of thing you might want to check out.

Firelord tried to save a fake Air-Walker from a Thor beatdown by flying across the planet at "blinding speed," but Thor already killed him, (making some punk little kid too old for his onesie cry about it), which caused one of their best fights, but nothing to0 impressive speed wise

Supermutant Senior Member

Originally posted by darthgoober
Hey Celey I've noticed you actually going to the trouble of posting feats for Thor but I think you've forgotten a decent one. I don't remember the exact details, but during one of Thor's fights with Firelord it was narrated that they were fighting too fast for the eye to see. Not that one or both of them made a single fast maneuver or anything like that, but that they were actually fighting at that speed(at least briefly). Not sure which one of their fights it was and I don't remember the exact scene so I might be mixing up details, but it seems like the kind of thing you might want to check out.

I believe this is the fight you are referencing.

http://i.imgur.com/dPEyPTR.jpg

Mr Master Junior Member

Thor has plenty of speed/reaction feats.

SLs can't hold a candle to him. Come on yall.

StiltmanFTW CBvF

Originally posted by Mr Master
SLs can't hold a candle to him.

That's not what this thread has proven.

Rage.Of.Olympus Senior Member

This thread is jokes.

DarkSaint85 Bonified abstract

Then post scans

abhilegend Prince of All Saiyans

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
This thread is jokes.

Rage right now.

LordGod Shaper of Reality

Originally posted by Mr Master
SLs can't hold a candle to him. Come on yall.

Except they CAN, because they HAVE. Literally dozens of times- the scans have all been posted here.

===========

The Thor side seems to talk a big game when it comes to his combat speed, but they have yet to prove [with scans] that his average level of speed is above the street tier. Sure he's ramped it up a few times over the years, but those select few instances certainly aren't enough to counterbalance all the other instances where his speed is very much street level. IMO>

celeyhyga17 Yawning Void

Originally posted by LordGod
Sure he's ramped it up a few times over the years, but those select few instances certainly aren't enough to counterbalance all the other instances where his speed is very much street level.

Sure they do. It's stuff streets will never be able to replicate.

CosmicComet Senior Member

Fighting proper speedsters in comics by itself means little without more context. i.e. explicitly being told how fast the speedster is going in the fight.

Fights are made to happen in comics regardless of how power sets match up all the time. especially in marvel where speed is mostly ignored.

Thor fighting Gladiator doesn't mean he is on par with Gladiator's nanosecond/ftl reflexes unless explicitly said so. Otherwise it means Wolverine and Colossus are in the same boat.

Even his 'fight' with quicksilver was an indictment on his speed. as he couldn't hit him at all, with the latter casually sidestepping his lightning and making him look like an oaf. He only got the better of him by slamming the ground and making an large enough AOE quake.

So you are left with Thor's explicit speed feats on his own merits. Which are paltry in number. Such as him digging a trench with Mjlonir at 'nearly' faster than eye speed (basic street level speed) or building a little tower brick by brick in unknown time frame (maybe minutes). not super impressive either.

or Jane Thor's surgery feat which would be a mid mach to maybe triple digit mach speed owing to the lightning comparison.

In other words I would put Thor at around lightning speed reflexes at best based on his own feats. You can't scale his speed using fights any more than you can for Batman hitting speedsters.

Thor being around lightning level in reflexes places him solidly in high street level company as Spidey has done similar.