Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I thought you said space cheese feats were irrelevant? and we go by relative strength showings...?
As per relative showings? Who is the standard for comparison then? Because post Crisis Superman himself was vastly stronger than Thor and he is only half of current Superman strength wise.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I don't think we can use the JLA crossover on here.
Say if a random Kryptonian is 100, what would be Thor's strength? Just remember, a adolescent Jon Kent broke out of time stop by brute strength and went through a gigantic black hole.
Originally posted by abhilegend
So who is going to be standard for relative portrayals?Say if a random Kryptonian is 100, what would be Thor's strength? Just remember, a adolescent Jon Kent broke out of time stop by brute strength and went through a gigantic black hole.
How do you quantify "breaking out of time stop"
Also, for relative showings:
In the last issues of Amazing X-Men Vol.2, Base Juggs oneshot killed the Living Monolith EASILY w/ sheer brute force. In Marvel Team Up Vol.1 #70, Thor confirmed that the Living Monolith's power rivals that of both Thanos (who was a Prime Eternal at the time) and the Destroyer. Base Juggs left a CRATER where the LM's chest was.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Also, for relative showings:In the last issues of Amazing X-Men Vol.2, Base Juggs oneshot killed the Living Monolith EASILY w/ sheer brute force. In Marvel Team Up Vol.1 #70, Thor confirmed that the Living Monolith's power rivals that of both Thanos (who was a Prime Eternal at the time) and the Destroyer. Base Juggs left a CRATER where the LM's chest was.
Okay. What’s your point?
Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm applying comicvine knowledge.As per relative showings? Who is the standard for comparison then? Because post Crisis Superman himself was vastly stronger than Thor and he is only half of current Superman strength wise.
Where is it stated that he's half strength of current?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
How do you quantify "breaking out of time stop"
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gjvxyCDIJy4/VoOJ4xpVEWI/AAAAAAAAHFs/0pgjdnj7kqg/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Also, for relative showings:In the last issues of Amazing X-Men Vol.2, Base Juggs oneshot killed the Living Monolith EASILY w/ sheer brute force. In Marvel Team Up Vol.1 #70, Thor confirmed that the Living Monolith's power rivals that of both Thanos (who was a Prime Eternal at the time) and the Destroyer. Base Juggs left a CRATER where the LM's chest was.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Here's the scan where In Amazing X-Men Vol.2 #18. Current Base Juggy oneshot doublesmash kills the Living Monolith.:Next page. We see a CRATER where the Living Monolith's chest should be.:
Relative showings and empty statements take you only so far.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Better than Thor's strength level. Or Hulk who have been frozen like nothing inside time stop.https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gjvxyCDIJy4/VoOJ4xpVEWI/AAAAAAAAHFs/0pgjdnj7kqg/s1600-Ic42/RCO012.jpg
And Base Juggernaut couldn't even move a truck Deadpool hit him with.Relative showings and empty statements take you only so far.
that happened in a non canon issue though 😂
and Superman was ran over by a tractor
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is it stated that he's half strength of current?
Post Crisis Superman was split into 2 Supes. When they were split, this did not affect new 52 Superman whereas the real Superman was EXTREMELY weakened. If you're broken into 2 halves and you're put back together, common sense should tell you that you're made whole again. People here thinks that putting 2 halves back together again makes you stronger. If it was any other character, this would not even be a debate. Rebirth Superman IS post crisis Superman. Even Superman himself admitted Hank, Cyborg Superman is his equal in strength and speed.
Hes every bit as fast and strong as me...
Also, before people mention he dodged Cyborg Superman, Cyborg was weakened...
Originally posted by carver9
Post Crisis Superman was split into 2 Supes. When they were split, this did not affect new 52 Superman whereas the real Superman was EXTREMELY weakened. If you're broken into 2 halves and you're put back together, common sense should tell you that you're made whole again. People here thinks that putting 2 halves back together again makes you stronger. If it was any other character, this would not even be a debate. Rebirth Superman IS post crisis Superman. Even Superman himself admitted Hank, Cyborg Superman is his equal in strength and speed.
It's because n52 had that benching the Earth feat - which was far and away more than post crisis.
There is also this:
Where post-Crisis Superman would have been killed...Rebirth is still alive and walking around.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It's because n52 had that benching the Earth feat - which was far and away more than post crisis.There is also this:
Where post-Crisis Superman would have been killed...Rebirth is still alive and walking around.
His bench pressing ft...It was a high end ft... a good high end ft but that's exactly what it was and remember, Pre Rebirth Superman was weakened, not DCNU Supes.
Superman outright states that HE was weakened and this was continuously said when he came back. This is the same guy that thought he was going to die when a mountain fell on him and was knocked out until nightfall... and again, Superman outright states Hank is his physical equal.
