Current Thor vs Current Superman

Started by abhilegend8 pages

Originally posted by carver9
So she can survive the sun at a powerless state but she cant survive in Earth core at a powerless state? Why?

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She survived the core of the sun because her powers returned.

Originally posted by NemeBro
You missed the point of his post, which is that Kara, though replenishing her power, was not amped upon emerging. Which is to say that a standard (less than standard at first) Kara could withstand the heat and pressure of the Earth's core and then return unscathed. Because she is durable enough to do so at base.

Kryptonians being near the sun puts them at full power. They dont need to dive in to get to their average power levels. Where did you get that they did?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its only his rogues gallery which was shown there carter. Show us where Diana or anyone else was shown.
What nonsense. Its a new reality and Superman is stronger than either post Crisis or new 52 Superman and so are his rogues.

Where is this stated?

Originally posted by abhilegend
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She survived the core of the sun because her powers returned.

We are getting somewhere. The point I'm making is, you can NOT use a power source as a means of proving someone's durability. If something is continuously making that person more powerful, the side effects are irrelevant. Now if she withstood something that wasnt continuously amping her, THEN it can be used. Putting Firelord in a sun and using it as a durability showing for the character or placing hydroman at the bottom of an ocean and using the pressure hes experiencing as a durability showing is borderline crazy.

Originally posted by carver9
Kryptonians being near the sun puts them at full power. They dont need to dive in to get to their average power levels. Where did you get that they did?

From the comic?

Shut up troll.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Where is this stated?

In Superman reborn.

Originally posted by carver9
We are getting somewhere. The point I'm making is, you can NOT use a power source as a means of proving someone's durability. If something is continuously making that person more powerful, the side effects are irrelevant. Now if she withstood something that wasnt continuously amping her, THEN it can be used. Putting Firelord in a sun and using it as a durability showing for the character or placing hydroman at the bottom of an ocean and using the pressure hes experiencing as a durability showing is borderline crazy.

Haha, what? Firelord doesn't gets his power from sun and Hydro man is literally water.

You're getting dumber with old age.

Originally posted by abhilegend
WTF?

Lex Luthor is in the scan as well. You said Superman rogue was bumped up to his level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Haha, what? Firelord doesn't gets his power from sun and Hydro man is literally water.

You're getting dumber with old age.

Who said he gets his powers from the sun? He CAN amplify himself by it though. Are you ok?

So we agree that Havok is more durable than Mangog? By the way, Havok was trashed when he was thrown into a star. No shields were up buddy. Does Havok have durability greater than Thor and Mangog?

Originally posted by abhilegend
From the comic?

Shut up troll.

Wait, do you honestly believe that a human Kara went all the way through the sun until she reached the core of it? Think about that before you answer it.

Originally posted by carver9
Lex Luthor is in the scan as well. You said Superman rogue was bumped up to his level.

I mean, seriously?
Originally posted by carver9
Who said he gets his powers from the sun? He CAN amplify himself by it though. Are you ok?

So we agree that Havok is more durable than Mangog? By the way, Havok was trashed when he was thrown into a star. No shields were up buddy. Does Havok have durability greater than Thor and Mangog?


Where does he amps from the sun carver? Scans please.

Havok getting thrashed means he doesn't has shields? What kind of logic is that?

Originally posted by carver9
Wait, do you honestly believe that a human Kara went all the way through the sun until she reached the core of it? Think about that before you answer it.

She went by a ship, the core destroyed the ship, reactivated her power.

Are you blind or something?

In all fairness, the notion that Kryptonians have to reach the sun's core before they start solar amping doesn't make any sense at all, and actually contradicts what we've seen in the past.

It was most likely exclusive to Kara in *that* particular instance, because her powers were in a constant state of flux at the time:
https://i.imgur.com/XWOuOVw.jpg

...And for whatever reason, getting dumped into the sun's core fixed that 'issue' permanently.

Originally posted by Galan007
In all fairness, the notion that Kryptonians have to reach the sun's core before they start solar amping doesn't make any sense at all, and actually contradicts what we've seen in the past.

It was most likely exclusive to Kara in *that* particular instance, because her powers were in a constant state of flux at the time:
https://i.imgur.com/XWOuOVw.jpg

...And for whatever reason, getting dumped into the sun's core fixed that 'issue' permanently.


Not really, this has a precedent when Superman lost his powers in Final Night. He had to go inside the core of the sun to reactivate his powers.

She was totally depowered before she jumped in the sun.

Are you just saying that Kryptonians can endure the pressures/forces of the sun's core when they're powerless, and/or at their 'normal' level, or are you saying that they only start solar amping when they enter the sun's core?

If the former, then yeah, I agree. 👆

Originally posted by Galan007
Are you just saying that Kryptonians can endure the pressures/forces of the sun's core when they're powerless, and/or at their 'normal' level, or are you saying that they only start solar amping when they enter the sun's core?

If the former, then yeah, I agree. 👆


I'm saying when they enter the core, their powers activate and they survive the core due to this.

Deadpool at the end of the comic stated it was non canon

Thor is far stronger than Teen Jon.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I'm saying when they enter the core, their powers activate and they survive the core due to this.
Ah, gotcha. 👆

Thought you were essentially saying that a solar amp doesn't start until a Kryptonian goes all the way into the sun's core.

Supes wins.

Glad Galan cleared that up.

Originally posted by abhilegend
I mean, seriously?
Where does he amps from the sun carver? Scans please.

Havok getting thrashed means he doesn't has shields? What kind of logic is that?
She went by a ship, the core destroyed the ship, reactivated her power.

Are you blind or something?

The sun has turned Superman from near skeleton like, almost dead to waking him up, talking and functioning and that is just from a beam of sun light. I can only imagine what the sun does when they are inside of the core of a yellow star. Terrible example. One is a HUGE power source whereas the other (Earth core) does no type of amping. One is obviously a durability showing.