Current Thor vs Current Superman

Started by abhilegend8 pages

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
that happened in a non canon issue though 😂

and Superman was ran over by a tractor


How's that non canon?

From behind, he threw the steamroller just fine.

Originally posted by carver9
Hes every bit as fast and strong as me...

Also, before people mention he dodged Cyborg Superman, Cyborg was weakened...

https://comicnewbies.files.wordpress.com/2018/03/why-superman-feels-sorry-for-cyborg-superman-6-e1521729073752.jpg


Superman Reborn warped reality of every Superman rogue

They are now scaled to Reborn Superman.

Originally posted by carver9
His bench pressing ft...It was a high end ft... a good high end ft but that's exactly what it was and remember, Pre Rebirth Superman was weakened, not DCNU Supes.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11132/111321350/5884997-supergirl%20%282016-%29%20008-016.jpg

Superman outright states that HE was weakened and this was continuously said when he came back. This is the same guy that thought he was going to die when a mountain fell on him and was knocked out until nightfall... and again, Superman outright states Hank is his physical equal.


That was due to Vandal Savage.

Originally posted by abhilegend
😂

He was weakened due to Vandal Savage. Jurgens confirmed it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/thedanjurgens/status/743479302646177792

And Superman in rebirth was stated to be more powerful than new 52 Superman due to absorbing more power from the sun.

Shut up.

Originally posted by carver9
@JL King...

Earth core was killing Rebirth Superman...

And you're mentioning Mangog being killed by the sun. Superman outright admitted he couldnt last long in the core of Earth. Not the first time it happened either. The energy in Earth core before this has outright took Superman (and Wraith) powers away from him. Let's not bring up Mangog lows as if Superman doesnt have any...hell, he have WORSE.


Half of current Superman, current Superman dives into the sun at weakened level for fun.

Mangog died in the sun. How's both comparable?

Even teen Jon can survive going through black holes.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Even Jon Kent fared better against such a black hole than Surfer did.

😂


Forget about Superman.

Jon Kent > Mangog > Asgard. I love it

Originally posted by NemeBro
"It can't help but interfere with all those fancy powers of [b]yours".

Did it affect some of Superman's powers, like heat vision or super senses? Maybe. Or maybe those powers are basic enough as opposed to the more fine-tuned wielding of Wraith's electromagnetic powers that the magnetic force didn't interfere with them. We don't know, and for you to claim otherwise is wrong carver.

But I will give you this carver: it may certainly be that the usage of Mangog's fairly low showing of being apparently killed by being thrown into the sun as gospel while ignoring Superman having serious trouble in the Earth's core is hypocritical. I'm not too read up on Mangog so I can't say for sure, but based on his relative portrayals that I've been led to believe I'd imagine he should probably have better durability than that. [/B]

Superman states that the only thing they can do down there is fist it out. Seems obvious to me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
How's that non canon?

From behind, he threw the steamroller just fine.
Superman Reborn warped reality of every Superman rogue

They are now scaled to Reborn Superman.

Where is this stated? I honestly dont even think you want to make that claim anyways because I have a LOT I can use to further my case on Supermans strength.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, let's think someone that can rip apart the Destroyer Armor but can't beat Supes is "Trolling"


Destroyer was ripped apart by zombie Loki just recently.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Half of current Superman, current Superman dives into the sun at weakened level for fun.

Mangog died in the sun. How's both comparable?

Even teen Jon can survive going through black holes.

Forget about Superman.

Superman sprinkled in red sunlight hurts him. If you're talking about him diving into a yellow sun... 😂 😂

Let me put if like this, HAVOK from the Xmen was thrown into a star AND SURVIVED and before this, he couldve been killed by a bullet or Colossus fist. Hope you get it.

Originally posted by carver9
Where is this stated? I honestly dont even think you want to make that claim anyways because I have a LOT I can use to further my case on Supermans strength.

In Superman reborn.

"A new existence, a single reality rebuilt from two."

You mean your lowballing?
😂

Originally posted by carver9
Superman sprinkled in red sunlight hurts him. If you're talking about him diving into a yellow sun... 😂 😂

Let me put if like this, HAVOK from the Xmen was thrown into a star AND SURVIVED and before this, he couldve been killed by a bullet or Colossus fist. Hope you get it.


Wut? Supergirl dived into the sun's core while powerless and returned at full power only.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Kara shoves that axe up Odinson's ass. Also Mangog buster level feat.

Supergirl tanks being inside the core of the sun.

👆

Do you think sun's temperature and gravity doesn't affects Kryptonians?

How does that makes any sense? Havok can create force fields to protect him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So who is going to be standard for relative portrayals?

Say if a random Kryptonian is 100, what would be Thor's strength? Just remember, a adolescent Jon Kent broke out of time stop by brute strength and went through a gigantic black hole.


Alberto? Carver?

How strong do you think Thor is compared to a random?

Originally posted by abhilegend
In Superman reborn.

"A new existence, a single reality rebuilt from two."

You mean your lowballing?
😂

Where in these scans does it state the Supermen was pushed up in power? Let me add to this then. Wonder Woman was pushed up to be his equal. Cyborg. Aquaman, Batman, Killer Croc.

Nothing there states anything you've just said. You're being ridiculous.

Nothing about power scaling. Just realignment to fit the new history.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Wut? Supergirl dived into the sun's core while powerless and returned at full power only.

Do you think sun's temperature and gravity doesn't affects Kryptonians?

How does that makes any sense? Havok can create force fields to protect him.

😂

Answer this. The powerless Supergirl you just mentioned, if she was thrown into a red sun or earth core, would she have survived? Simple question. Would a Supergirl drained completely of her power survive inside of a red sun or earth core?

Originally posted by carver9
Where in these scans does it state the Supermen was pushed up in power? Let me add to this then. Wonder Woman was pushed up to be his equal. Cyborg. Aquaman, Batman, Killer Croc.

Nothing there states anything you've just said. You're being ridiculous.


Its only his rogues gallery which was shown there carter. Show us where Diana or anyone else was shown.
Originally posted by TheHulkster
Nothing about power scaling. Just realignment to fit the new history.

What nonsense. Its a new reality and Superman is stronger than either post Crisis or new 52 Superman and so are his rogues.

You missed the point of his post, which is that Kara, though replenishing her power, was not amped upon emerging. Which is to say that a standard (less than standard at first) Kara could withstand the heat and pressure of the Earth's core and then return unscathed. Because she is durable enough to do so at base.

Originally posted by carver9
😂

Answer this. The powerless Supergirl you just mentioned, if she was thrown into a red sun or earth core, would she have survived? Simple question. Would a Supergirl drained completely of her power survive inside of a red sun or earth core?


No. But that's because she is powerless dumbass.

She at full power tanked core of the sun without any issue. Or do you think sun's temperature and gravity just vanishes in front of Kryptonians?

Originally posted by abhilegend
Its only his rogues gallery which was shown there carter. Show us where Diana or anyone else was shown.
What nonsense. Its a new reality and Superman is stronger than either post Crisis or new 52 Superman and so are his rogues.

So Lex Luthor is as strong as Superman?

Originally posted by abhilegend
No. But that's because she is powerless dumbass.

She at full power tanked core of the sun without any issue. Or do you think sun's temperature and gravity just vanishes in front of Kryptonians?

So she can survive the sun at a powerless state but she cant survive in Earth core at a powerless state? Why?

Originally posted by carver9
So Lex Luthor is as strong as Superman?

WTF?