Vapes

So there's been a lot of shit about vapes in the news, and a lot of talk among politicians on both sides of the aisle about various forms of bans n shit. Trump's certainly weighed in, the FDA's weighed in. People screaming "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"

So what are your thoughts?

People get pneumonia every day. Probably more of them smoke cigarettes than vape. Even more smoke neither. As an ex-smoker, I can assure you vaping is better than smoking. The rich are just looking to regulate it so they can slap another fat tax on the poor. They're willing to spend a few million on propaganda to reap a few hundred billion down the road.

So yeah, it's propaganda.

I honestly don’t care. I still believe in do you as long as it doesn’t negatively effect me.

Let the retards kill themselves. it's natural selection.

I let my employees vape indoors.

Second hand vape is pretty much 0 health risk. When you're sitting in very large conference rooms, and are spaced far apart, it pretty much completely dissipates. I would prefer every single smoker start vaping, immediately.

There is still a health risk.

https://health.usnews.com/conditions/articles/secondhand-vaping-risks-for-kids

Anyway, I got Rogue Jedi a vaping device to help him quite smoking cigs. He said it is stronger than a cig. Far less "bad" for you than a cig and the second hand "smoke" is far less bad for others. Seems like a no brainer.

Still, I won't interfere with people's right to kill themselves.

Yeah as a vapist myself who likes to perpetuate vape culture, I obviously don’t agree with any of these “bans.”

I honestly just couldn't get into vaping. I prefer to smoke.

Inhaling smoke or vapor of any kind is not great for you, but it’s silly to compare smoking to vaping.

From what I gather, it's not so much regulating vaping but the actual devices themselves. There's more cheap knock-offs on sale then the real authentic ones.

Cheap knock offs that have a tendency to catch on fire.

Some also advertise as no-nicotine but actually have nicotine to get you hooked on their brand.

It all sounds like propaganda,to be honest. Vaping is a far cry from smoking and although I tend to enjoy it on occasion, I prefer smoking.

That being said, it shouldn’t be banned for a few odd circumstances.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Let the retards kill themselves. it's natural selection.

If people want to kill themselves because smoking is more important then living, who are we to get in their way.

These Cases

What environment are they working and living in?

What are the levels of Mold Spores, Dust, Particulate (Harmful Vehicle Emissions), Dioxins, etc in the air they're breathing?

What are their occupations?

Their Medical Record?

Lifestyle?

What equipment are they using?

Are they using it responsibly?

I know people who have never smoked yet have started vaping because they think it's healthy or something, seems like lots of young people are into it probably because it's called a device and they love devices but then cigarettes have always been aimed at children, why should vaping devices be any different? Personally, I'm coming up on 3 months without smoking (or vaping for that matter).

Did people see this clusterf*ck?

Witness Says Vaping Helped Her Quit Smoking. Rashida Tlaib Asks 'Are You a Conspiracy Theorist?'

wut

Wow and people say Rashida is smart?

Originally posted by samhain
Personally, I'm coming up on 3 months without smoking (or vaping for that matter).

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Wow and people say Rashida is smart?

"Moments before, Tlaib had asserted secondhand smoke was "worse than directly smoking cigarettes."

Hmm.

How is directly inhaling smoke from a cigarette less dangerous than being around someone who’s body has already soaked up all the crap directly?

Originally posted by shiv
Before blaming E-Cigs and vaping for all medical problems a person experiences, you should first consider these questions:

1. What environment are they working and living in?

2. What are the levels of Mold Spores, Dust, Particulate (Harmful Vehicle Emissions), Dioxins, etc. in the air that they're breathing?

3. What are their occupations?

4. What is in their medical history that could be a contributing factor?

5. Is there anything in their lifestyle that could be a contributing factor?

6. What equipment are they using?

7. Are they using e-cigs responsibly?

Updated your post for you.

@broly

It was a fairly common misconception back in the day that alot of people believed. Tho with things like the interwebs around nowadays there's really no excuse for not knowing.

With that being said second hand smoke is still very dangerous.

"Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide."

"Secondhand smoke is a serious health hazard causing more than 41,000 deaths per year. It can cause or make worse a wide range of damaging health effects in children and adults, including lung cancer, respiratory infections and asthma."

"Secondhand smoke causes approximately 7,330 deaths from lung cancer and 33,950 deaths from heart disease each year."

"Between 1964 and 2014, 2.5 million people died from exposure to secondhand smoke, according to the 2014 report from the U.S. Surgeon General. The report also concluded that secondhand smoke is a definitive cause of stroke."

https://www.lung.org/stop-smoking/smoking-facts/health-effects-of-secondhand-smoke.html