I'll take a vaper next to me over a smoker any day of the week.
Vaping should be regulated similar to cigarettes though, age restrictions, can't market to kids, where you can and can't vape. Though likely not as strict with the last.
Cig smoking should only be allowed in enclosed glass boxes with proper ventilation, like they have in some airports, where normal people can watch the smokers like one would watch monkeys at a zoo, while the children point and laugh while making funny faces.
Originally posted by Robtard
I'll take a vaper next to me over a smoker any day of the week.Vaping should be regulated similar to cigarettes though, age restrictions, can't market to kids, where you can and can't vape. Though likely not as strict with the last.
Cig smoking should only be allowed in enclosed glass boxes with proper ventilation, like they have in some airports, where normal people can watch the smokers like one would watch monkeys at a zoo, while the children point and laugh while making funny faces.
When it comes to “marketing to kids,” that’s a bit more dicey. Some would say having fruity flavors is “marketing to kids” even though no adult I know doesn’t vape fruity flavors.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
As far as the age thing I agree. Though I’m not a fan of changing the smoking age to 21 unless everything else is changed to 21 too. **** this piecemeal rights bullshit, either someone is an adult in the eyes of the law with full rights and responsibilities or they aren’t.When it comes to “marketing to kids,” that’s a bit more dicey. Some would say having fruity flavors is “marketing to kids” even though no adult I know doesn’t vape fruity flavors.
That's a good point.
I want to eliminate age restrictions on everything and start requiring competency tests.
And I mean everything.
Can't vote unless you pass the test.
Can't drive.
Can't smoke.
Etc.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
As far as the age thing I agree. Though I’m not a fan of changing the smoking age to 21 unless everything else is changed to 21 too. **** this piecemeal rights bullshit, either someone is an adult in the eyes of the law with full rights and responsibilities or they aren’t.When it comes to “marketing to kids,” that’s a bit more dicey. Some would say having fruity flavors is “marketing to kids” even though no adult I know doesn’t vape fruity flavors.
I agree there, you're old enough at 18 to vote and kill/be killed for your country, but not old enough to choose if you want to smoke or drink? Bullshit.
I don't know enough to know the exacts. The fruit flavor thing, I can see both sides have a point. But the shit Big Tobacco used to be allowed to do towards drawing in kids shouldn't be allowed in kind with vaping.
Originally posted by dadudemon
That's a good point.I want to eliminate age restrictions on everything and start requiring competency tests.
And I mean everything.
Can't vote unless you pass the test.
Can't drive.
Can't smoke.
Etc.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
I don't necessarily agree. I think age, despite its arbitrary nature is a guarantee that at some point you will grow into your liberty. A test could all too easily be gerrymandered to suit the interests of whoever makes the test.
I disagree. A test cannot be readily gerrymandered unless you think a drivers' written test is that magical.
In which case, Republicans would be all over that. lol
Originally posted by EmperordmbI'm tired of kneejerk reactions in this country. Ban this, protest that...stfu. We live in such luxury that people can get triggered and erupt in outrage too easily.
So there's been a lot of shit about vapes in the news, and a lot of talk among politicians on both sides of the aisle about various forms of bans n shit. Trump's certainly weighed in, the FDA's weighed in. People screaming "THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!"So what are your thoughts?
So no to banning. They need to figure out the actual cause. My guess is these kids are adding stuff to their vapes they shouldn't, using the thing excessively, or maybe there was a bad batch of the fluid.
Originally posted by shiv
I strongly doubt anyone who walks more than 3 miles a day - in all weather conditions - has or will ever have any thing to fear from vaping. Same goes for anyone who works or lives near salt water or at high altitude.
Updated your post for you.
Do you make all posts from your mobile phone? I find myself similarly spacing out my posts like yours when on mobile (but I remove the spaces right before hitting submit).
Let's be honest, there was NEVER going to be acceptable vaping, especially associated with children.
Even if it was found perfectly safe, this is more about social stigma then facts. And the media is nothing more then a peddler of bias for their audiences (If their entire audience believed in feeding brown skinned children to Nazi Pit Bulls, they'd show videos of Nazi Pit Bull feeding frenzies.)