Hal Jordan vs Thor & Hulk

Started by AlbertoJohnAvil5 pages

The hypocrisy/contradiction/trolling is real

Originally posted by abhilegend
There is no wound on Samson's head by blasting though.
Yes, opium makes you dizzy. How does it make someone less durable though.

Are you able to read or what?

"Yeah it just makes you only dizzy"

Originally posted by abhilegend
Lolwut? You are seriously trying to use side effects of opium on humans to someone like Samson?

😂

"Are you applying the effects of what it does on Samson now"

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Originally posted by TheHulkster
We never see Samson's head to see the wound, but blood gushes from it. Clearly a wound is there.

No, we see his head. There's no entry wound such as we see for Walter.

Originally posted by abhilegend
So you think Samson is just human and physical dizzyness means actually weakening his durability?

I never SAID he was a human. I PROVIDED the effects of the drug, YOU even said the drug just make you dizzy, so you're agreeing with the effect of what the drug does

But when I want to bring up physical weakness also being a factor of it it's not applicable now?

Bro, go to sleep. and stop trolling. You're done 😂

Laughable lowballng

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
The hypocrisy/contradiction/trolling is real

"Yeah it just makes you only dizzy"

"Are you applying the effects of what it does on Samson now"

😂


facepalm

You've gone off the rails.

https://www.webmd.com/drugs/2/drug-6253/fentanyl-transdermal/details/list-sideeffects

Even general weakness means loss of stamina rather than you're suddenly less strong than usual. And that's rare even for humans.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
I never SAID he was a human. I PROVIDED the effects of the drug, YOU even said the drug just make you dizzy, so you're agreeing with the effect of what the drug does

But when I want to bring up physical weakness also being a factor of it it's not applicable now?

Bro, go to sleep. and stop trolling. You're done 😂

Laughable lowballng


😂

Is this from spacebattles? I refuse to believe someone can be this stupid.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Case in point, even redeemer armor hits harder than this Hulk.

Redeemer armor killed Samson in one punch. Hulk couldn't even knock him out in several punches.

Stop trolling.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Stop trolling.

ermm

Wut?

You're obviously trolling.

Originally posted by abhilegend
ermm

Wut?

Look, this is abhis point.

Becoming weak/dizziness, whatever. Doesn't affect DURABILITY. It's not like Samson has to actually concentrate on making his skin hard.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Look, this is abhis point.

Becoming weak/dizziness, whatever. Doesn't affect DURABILITY. It's not like Samson has to actually concentrate on making his skin hard.

If it was a PUNCH (even though it wasnt), the effects of the drug would maybe a factor here. His speech shows this. We have Hulk punching a healthy Samson while the scan Abhi posted wasnt a Samson at his peak. Now kets nip this in the bud. We clearly, CLEARLY see a weapon coming out of the upper part of his hand, glowing. He was blasted. Do I need to explain the difference between a blast and a punch.

Maybe, maybe not. He's not Colossus, who has to deliberately make himself steel and can switch forms. His durability is always 'on', if that makes sense.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Maybe, maybe not. He's not Colossus, who has to deliberately make himself steel and can switch forms. His durability is always 'on', if that makes sense.

So you're saying, punching a guy that is filled with drugs vs punching a healthy person is the same? I just need to know how far I need to continue debating this.

Originally posted by carver9
So you're saying, punching a guy that is filled with drugs vs punching a healthy person is the same? I just need to know how far I need to continue debating this.

Your analogy only works if the guy I'm punching will no sell my punch.

If a baby punches me when I healthy, I'll just laugh it off. It'll tickle at most. When I'm drugged up? I prob won't laugh it off as I'd be drugged lol, but it's still not hurting me.

Back to the comic, if a pissed off, superpowerful Hulk (who shrugs heralds off by flexing, laughs at trans level beings punching him etc) is unable to KO Samson, that makes Samson super durable, no?

Doesn't matter how drugged he is, a guy who isn't KOd by trans tier punching isn't getting killed by puny armour.

Unless of course, Hulk ISN'T trans tier lmao.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Your analogy only works if the guy I'm punching will no sell my punch.

If a baby punches me when I healthy, I'll just laugh it off. It'll tickle at most. When I'm drugged up? I prob won't laugh it off as I'd be drugged lol, but it's still not hurting me.

Back to the comic, if a pissed off, superpowerful Hulk (who shrugs heralds off by flexing, laughs at trans level beings punching him etc) is unable to KO Samson, that makes Samson super durable, no?

Doesn't matter how drugged he is, a guy who isn't KOd by trans tier punching isn't getting killed by puny armour.

Unless of course, Hulk ISN'T trans tier lmao.

And this is where our convo ends. If it was any other character, you wouldve dismissed this argument. I honestly feel like I should block you and leave it at that. I'll have that answer in a few more minutes.

Blocked!!!

How so?

You're asserting that Hulk is above herald level consistently.

Fair enough.

So against Samson....does that mean Samson's durability is above herald level? That doesn't work, because.....

The Redeemer armour killed him. Not just KOd. Killed. He was drugged, yes, I totally agree with that. But considering he can -under the same writer - stand up to several Immortal Hulk punches, that drug should make no difference to his DURABILITY. The armour would be like an ant to him (or, in the analogy we are using, like a baby).

No drugs is going to make me so drowsy/weak that a baby is going to hurt me with it's tiny punches.

Edit: block all you want....I can still take the piss out of you, lol. And all it needs is for people to quote me. Unless you block all of them? Wanna take that bet on how many would quote me, just so you can see the posts? 😈

Originally posted by carver9
Then it's not even a punch. He blasted Samson.
Originally posted by TheHulkster

...and?

Again. Samson took several, SEVERAL punches from a guy who throws heralds off just by flexing. A blast does....what exactly to such a guy?

Even when drugged, how does that affect his durability? The gap between the two are so vast, unless we're now arguing the Redeemer fired a Celestial busting gun or something at him...

Prolly didnt have his full faculties... Almost like a cheap shot in comics. Less defensive awareness. Lessens the ability to roll with punch. Probably couldnt fully brace against an attack... Clearly an out.
Not a constant thing, but it's pretty commonplace in comics.