Immortal Hulk vs Darkseid in physical match

Why are people focusing so much on lowballing Hulk instead of bringing arguments on DS being physically impressive.

We talk Superman (who isn't here) and Frankenstein (who is clearly Hulk apparently?) but we haven't established DS's physical level really. Superman dwarfs DS physically in every way that counts, whenever he puts up a fight it's pretty much due to Kal's mental blocks and I don't see that as something debatable. His Omega Beams and Omega Effect with the rest of his versatility is really what puts him beyond Superman, not physical stats.

Does DS have showings manhandle several high level bricks at once? Thanos has several of those and a tried and proved durabilty soak, DS has been put down in a few attacks a number of times. So please, can we really established how Darkseid fares physically against bricks before trying to drown the argument by criticizing a rather competent version of Hulk?

Which bricks have brought Darkseid down in a few blows? Darkseid's record is ****ing insane against characters not named Superman and is easily superior to Thanos, forget about Hulk.

Doomsday

Originally posted by Bentley
Doomsday

It should be noted that at this point in his chronology, Superman's natural powers were already MASSIVELY amped due to his exposure to Kryptonite X...

When Henshaw attempted to kill Supes via blasting him with k-nite, Eradicator jumped in the way of the blast before it directly touched Supes(essentially sacrificing himself), and the bleed-over energies then passed into Superman. After this happened, Supes was not only returned to full power, but he felt better than ever:
https://i.imgur.com/A5Fc715.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZUOr1em.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/IMFlneF.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/PpaVx4Q.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/JqED6sp.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TL1K0F7.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/jsqwvoo.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8uYRKnL.jpg
"I'm rejuvenated in a way I never thought possible! Something tells me I'll be able to handle anything better than ever!"
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Soon thereafter(the same month/year the H/P arc began), it would be revealed that Superman had become immensely more powerful. Examples...

"Just tapped him a little... And he flew back like I hit him with my best haymaker!":
https://i.imgur.com/KgUftR4.jpg

"Even using as little effort as possible, I'm still stronger...faster...and more powerful than EVER before!":
https://i.imgur.com/vyiofCJ.jpg
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Superman's amp was then expanded on...

Hamilton: "You're absorbing solar radiation --and OTHER energies-- much faster than EVER before! This is because you've been irradiated by something vaguely familiar to Kryptonite -- call it Kryptonite-X."

Superman: "The last time I was exposed to Kryptonite, it passed through the Eradiactor first... Recharging my powers instantly!"

Hamilton: "A bit of foreshadowing there, I'd say. Bluntly, there's no physical way to expend your energy fast enough. Your powers will keep increasing until your body can't contain them.":
https://i.imgur.com/O04ni6h.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/kuppq8g.jpg
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Superman himself mentioned his increased power during the H/P arc(before he had even obtained a MotherBox)...

"I'm BETTER than before, too! STRONGER.":
https://i.imgur.com/DNjZeeh.jpg
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His amplified power during the H/P-era was reinforced again here...

"After his recovery, [Superman] was stronger than EVER. Good thing, too -- 'cause Doomsday had cheated death as well! Even with the EXTRA power, he still needed some gizmo called a 'Mother Box' to HELP HIM stand up to Doomsday.":
https://i.imgur.com/xTntuCb.jpg

So as you can see- during the events of the H/P arc, Superman's natural abilities were hyper-amped to such an extent that he compared the power behind his LIGHTEST TAP to that of his BEST HAYMAKER before the amp.. And what was his BEST HAYMAKER previously? I'd say it was undoubtedly the final blow he used to 'kill' DoS Doomsday:
https://i.imgur.com/6dZAU4m.jpg

...Food for thought.

That being said, MotherBox sensed the threat H/P Doomsday posed, and amped/equipped Superman specifically to handle him. IOW, it was an AMP on top of Superman's existing AMP:
https://i.imgur.com/4RGKnUR.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9SoKBzh.jpg
"MotherBox sensed the situation, and armed me for battle with Doomsday! [...] Hopefully I've caught up to Doomsday's next level of evolution!"

...Yet the amp it gleaned STILL wasn't remotely enough to contend with Doomsday, which is absolutely staggering given what MotherBox can do.

You would have better chance lowballing Odin because Mangog oneshotted him. In silver age.

Let's admit that HP Doomsday it's all the physical powerhouse you pretend him to be. That doesn't mean Darkseid can tank any number of heralds below him and he still got handled rather quickly by DD so he's orders of magnitude weaker.

It might be easier if you just post scans of DS physically tangling with high tiers that would overpower Hulk.

Originally posted by Bentley
Let's admit that HP Doomsday it's all the physical powerhouse you pretend him to be. That doesn't mean Darkseid can tank any number of heralds below him and he still got handled rather quickly by DD so he's orders of magnitude weaker.

Pretend to be? Who's pretending?

It might be easier if you just post scans of DS physically tangling with high tiers that would overpower Hulk.

Well he can overpower Thing that's for sure. Also he has overpowered both Hal and Diana at the same time, overpowered Superman in a bearhug, Batman said entire Justice League doesn't stands a chance against him, he tanked boom tubes closing on him which cracked the entire space time continuum.

Luthor with a portion of his power was going toe to toe with Mobius who overpowered Ultraman casually and killed him.

Oh and he destroyed a planet clashing with Highfather.

But the Hulk adapts in his own way much like Doomsday, and has no known upper limit to his strength.

DS gives him the Zeus treatment but much worseZ

Originally posted by Diesldude
DS gives him the Zeus treatment but much worseZ

You realize that the Hulk wasn't there to fight Zeus right? He went to ask for his help, and Zeus was the aggressor. Did you see how well Wonder Woman did against Darkseid? Let's not pretend that he's Thanos.

Originally posted by Stoic
You realize that the Hulk wasn't there to fight Zeus right? He went to ask for his help, and Zeus was the aggressor. Did you see how well Wonder Woman did against Darkseid? Let's not pretend that he's Thanos.

doesn’t matter if hulk went to ask for help. Zeus was able to damage the hulk and DS can replicate that easily. With hulks last showing DS one shots kills him.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Pretend to be? Who's pretending?

Well he can overpower Thing that's for sure. Also he has overpowered both Hal and Diana at the same time, overpowered Superman in a bearhug, Batman said entire Justice League doesn't stands a chance against him, he tanked boom tubes closing on him which cracked the entire space time continuum.

Luthor with a portion of his power was going toe to toe with Mobius who overpowered Ultraman casually and killed him.

Oh and he destroyed a planet clashing with Highfather.

And Diana has worked Darkseid. Also, Hulk showings against teams are just as good and on some occasions, it's better. Hulk is cracking high Herald skulls in a punch and overloading Vibranium, nearly killing Tony inside of his armor with a thunder clap. You seem desperate continuously mentioning Thing as if that showing hinders Hulk capabilities and what hes done. Wonder why the mods isnt in here saying something.

Which showing is worse Diesldude? The Zeus fight or Darkseid vs Wonder Woman?

Originally posted by Stoic
You realize that the Hulk wasn't there to fight Zeus right? He went to ask for his help, and Zeus was the aggressor. Did you see how well Wonder Woman did against Darkseid? Let's not pretend that he's Thanos.

Originally posted by carver9
And Diana has worked Darkseid.

Never did.

Also, Hulk showings against teams are just as good and on some occasions, it's better. Hulk is cracking high Herald skulls in a punch and overloading Vibranium, nearly killing Tony inside of his armor with a thunder clap. You seem desperate continuously mentioning Thing as if that showing hinders Hulk capabilities and what hes done. Wonder why the mods isnt in here saying something.

Why? Thing beating Hulk is legit, you've a problem, go to mods.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Never did.

Why? Thing beating Hulk is legit, you've a problem, go to mods.

Diana had him on his knees at one point.

Lol...glad you said this. So glad.

Originally posted by carver9
Diana had him on his knees at one point.

Lol...glad you said this. So glad.

facepalm

Originally posted by abhilegend
That's like saying bullets blow half of Hulk's head out so he is bullets level. Darkseid was never beaten.

facepalm

He was losing. Diana gave him fits. A Herald, and, he wasnt mind controlled.

Originally posted by carver9
He was losing. Diana gave him fits. A Herald, and, he wasnt mind controlled.

And Diana > thing is you want to go off a single showings

Originally posted by Diesldude
you have scans?

And Diana > thing is you want to go off a single showings

Happily...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/comicnewbies.com/2019/02/03/wonder-woman-vs-darkseid-wonder-woman-vol-5-44/amp/

Good thing is, Darkseid wasnt being controlled like Hulk was during his fight against Thing. No context involved.