Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not as bad as Captain America bloodying him up.
Didn't Batman stun the Spectre? Didn't Batman get up after Wonder Woman slammed his head through cement? Both Batman and Captain America have feats above their weight class.
Do you recall what Namor did to Thor recently? That was the same Thor that defeated the Juggernaut.
Originally posted by lawest9
Then in that case he is operating beyond his normal pay grade, isn't he? did he have these amps when Hyperion killed him?
He got his Hydrokenetic powers well before this thread. He did not have them when Hype cut his head off. Before that happened he was even with Hype. BA isn't his superior and really never was if we look at his history. So... about BA's run-in with Ultraman. You have those scans? You think BA can break even with Doomsday? He's no Superman so stop pretending.
Originally posted by Stoic
Didn't Batman stun the Spectre? Didn't Batman get up after Wonder Woman slammed his head through cement? Both Batman and Captain America have feats above their weight class.Do you recall what Namor did to Thor recently? That was the same Thor that defeated the Juggernaut.
My comment is in direct reply to your Hawkman usage. Batman isn't in this thread - my point is that yes, both sides have low showings, but not let's pretend that Hawkman backed by Alan Scott is the lowest showing of these two combatants.
Here is one of the scans you asked for.....
I beg to diffet as it's interesting that you use the word Historically, BA has always been on another level from Sub- Mariner, so I invite YOU to stop pretending because history is on the side of my points made, new du52 Ultraman is a true beast within himself.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
My comment is in direct reply to your Hawkman usage. Batman isn't in this thread - my point is that yes, both sides have low showings, but not let's pretend that Hawkman backed by Alan Scott is the lowest showing of these two combatants.
And my point was that WW3 was full of it. The hero's didn't fight to the very best of their ability so lawest bringing it up as if BA could do that in a forum match was misleading to say the least. But, I'm sure that point dawned on you.
Originally posted by Stoic
And my point was that WW3 was full of it. The hero's didn't fight to the very best of their ability so lawest bringing it up as if BA could do that in a forum match was misleading to say the least. But, I'm sure that point dawned on you.
Agreed. But again, it's not their lowest showing. Alan Scott losing to Black Adam isn't exactly Batman/Cap level.
One of whom has actually interacted with the combatants in this thread.
Originally posted by lawest9
Here is one of the scans you asked for.....I beg to diffet as it's interesting that you use the word Historically, BA has always been on another level from Sub- Mariner, so I invite YOU to stop pretending because history is on the side of my points made, new du52 Ultraman is a true beast within himself.
You asked me why I was hating on BA so much? You'd best look at what you've been doing this entire time with Namor while ignoring the fact that he has a history of fighting evenly with BA level characters. I asked for scans and you post a blog. It's fineif you don't have them, but Superman can fight evenly with Ultraman without getting his jaw crushed.
Originally posted by Stoicwhat's dawning on me is the double standard and cherry picking that you are doing here, what WW3 Adam did is canon and it happened, there is nothing that suggested that the JSA was holding back ( provide me proof if there was ) on the one hand you make excuses for Namor's most humiliating defeat while low balling the obvious in BA dismantling of the JSA, very hypocritical sir, but the oroof is before our eyes and again your cherry picking is on display for all to see.
And my point was that WW3 was full of it. The hero's didn't fight to the very best of their ability so lawest bringing it up as if BA could do that in a forum match was misleading to say the least. But, I'm sure that point dawned on you.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Agreed. But again, it's not their lowest showing. Alan Scott losing to Black Adam isn't exactly Batman/Cap level.One of whom has actually interacted with the combatants in this thread.
Batman/Spectre? Batman/Grundy? Captain America/Hulk? Captain American (old asf)/Avengers? Whatever. See what you want to see.
Originally posted by Stoic
Batman/Spectre? Batman/Grundy? Captain America/Hulk? Captain American (old asf)/Avengers? Whatever. See what you want to see.
Again, you're not seeing my point.
WW3 is NOT on the same level as Cap vs Namor. Alan Scott losing to BA isn't as bad as Hulk losing to Cap.....If you think that the gap between them is the same, then fair enough.
Btw, I've shown that the Batman Spectre showing always misses the next scan, where Spectre did it just to make Batman feel better.
People using to to cry PIS always forget/don't know about that .
Originally posted by lawest9
what's dawning on me is the double standard and cherry picking that you are doing here, what WW3 Adam did is canon and it happened, there is nothing that suggested that the JSA was holding back ( provide me proof if there was ) on the one hand you make excuses for Namor's most humiliating defeat while low balling the obvious in BA dismantling of the JSA, very hypocritical sir, but the oroof is before our eyes and again your cherry picking is on display for all to see.
You're the one cheery picking. You will not admit that Namor and BA would be tied up in battle for a very long time. You're the one stating that BA would solo. Back up and read what you've wrote. You were wrong. Now you just need to admit it, or are you saying that BA would beat a team consisting of Namor, Gladiator, Silver Surfer, Dr. Strange, Hyperion, Wolverine, Hulk, and Ghost Rider because of his WW3 showing? Ahhh now you're getting it.
Originally posted by lawest9Correction.........PROOF
what's dawning on me is the double standard and cherry picking that you are doing here, what WW3 Adam did is canon and it happened, there is nothing that suggested that the JSA was holding back ( provide me proof if there was ) on the one hand you make excuses for Namor's most humiliating defeat while low balling the obvious in BA dismantling of the JSA, very hypocritical sir, but the oroof is before our eyes and again your cherry picking is on display for all to see.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Again, you're not seeing my point.WW3 is NOT on the same level as Cap vs Namor. Alan Scott losing to BA isn't as bad as Hulk losing to Cap.....If you think that the gap between them is the same, then fair enough.
Btw, I've shown that the Batman Spectre showing always misses the next scan, where Spectre did it just to make Batman feel better.
People using to to cry PIS always forget/don't know about that .
You know Bruce. I know that you can come up with othe instances that has him operating above his weight class. How about the scene from Superman/Batman when they used a castling maneuver to defeat Shazam and Hawkman? I'm sure he has others. And I did see your point. My point is that BA isn't soloing this team.