Will Joker cause an Incel bloodbath? The US Army think so.

Started by Silent Master10 pages

Probably because the current crop of SW movies have been rather disappointing.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Lots of talk about this film being about incels or the Joker's followers being antifa.

Imagine being so ingrained in your own politics that you project it onto everything else in your life. The movies you see and the characters in them being a perfect example.

Never being able to switch off from it. People that do that must get very little enjoyment from things that are supposed to be entertainment.

To be honest, I think people just wanted another excuse to whine about incels. Some are pathetically obsessed with these people.

And I'm not saying you're making up the antifa part, but the vast majority of this shit has been about incels so there is no equivalence from both sides here. It's like 90% incel talk.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Probably because the current crop of SW movies have been rather disappointing.

Among other things, yeah.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/04/joker-the-incels-the-incitement-the-ending-discuss-with-spoilers

Is this movie really just the biggest-budget Ben Shapiro video? To what extent will misogynistic creeps “feel seen” in this film? Well, for most of its run time, it isn’t quite the alt-right manifesto some of the pre-release discourse suggested. It’s really just a drama about a mentally ill man with no friends who is targeted by bullies, lives with his mother, is ignored by the attractive woman down the hall and only finds purpose in mass murder.

Wait, I know that sounds like it is sympathy for the incel, but Fleck’s anger, for most of the movie, stays rooted in his own circumstances. He isn’t really railing against PC culture or how he’s owed anything, like a guy who won’t stop talking about Jordan Peterson. It’s more of a generic “My life sucks!” cry than an “Our life sucks, brothers!”

The movie was about a man struggling with a mental illness. It made a point about a lack of social programs/healthcare/funding for such people. At no point did he want to kill someone for not getting enough pussy.

Well, you know how wittle pooty is. He and many other lefties are so obsessed with incels lol.

Originally posted by eThneoLgrRnae
Well, you know how wittle pooty is. He and many other lefties are so obsessed with incels lol.
you are always so triggered. 🙂

Originally posted by SamZED
The movie was about a man struggling with a mental illness. It made a point about a lack of social programs/healthcare/funding for such people. At no point did he want to kill someone for not getting enough pussy.
What happened to the girl in it?

Originally posted by SamZED
The movie was about a man struggling with a mental illness. It made a point about a lack of social programs/healthcare/funding for such people. At no point did he want to kill someone for not getting enough pussy.

Samzed would know about getting no pussy

Originally posted by Surtur

And I'm not saying you're making up the antifa part,

Of course you're not....and we both know why.

Was looking forward to this movie, now I'm not so sure. If it does go the route of critiquing 'toxic masculinity', I hope it's more Fight Club than Romper Stomper.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
What happened to the girl in it?

We don't know for sure. But if it did happen "not getting any" wasn't the reason behind it. It was his illness and lack of help. At no point did they suggest that sexual frustration was a major factor. In fact he was more or less fine until he thought that she was there providing him with emotional support. I'll stop now because it's getting kinda spoilerish.

Originally posted by Bentley
Samzed would know about getting no pussy

That... is accurate.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/oct/04/joker-the-incels-the-incitement-the-ending-discuss-with-spoilers

Is this movie really just the biggest-budget Ben Shapiro video? To what extent will misogynistic creeps “feel seen” in this film?

^Someone wrote this in an article and published it with their real name attached. Just wow lol. IDS(incel derangement syndrome) is now a thing.

I guarantee you if I asked this person if Ben is alt right they'd say yes.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Of course you're not....and we both know why.

Cuz I'm too lazy to track down if people in the media have been screeching about antifa over this as well. However, as I said, there is no equivalence. Most of this has been crying about how incels will react.

Every single review I have read has mentioned it, so far none have invoked antifa. To be fair I haven't seen the movie, maybe at one part Joker relentlessly bullies an elderly couple and calls them nazis for no reasons.

Originally posted by Putinbot1
What happened to the girl in it?

I'll answer honestly:

Spoiler:
It was implied that he murdered her. Most likely, a gun shot through the head based on the foreshadowing that was put into our faces about 4 times.

However, it is never implied that he harmed the little girl as he showed no aggression to children (some may disagree because he made Bruce smile. lol, but that wasn't aggression, just his weird warped view of wanting to make the brooding Bruce smile because he thought it was his little brother, at the time). Actually, he showed 0 aggression towards women in the movie. So it is possible that she is not dead. Just a weird visit. The director/editor may have wanted this vague on purpose because he wanted the viewer to fill in the blank. Lazy direction? Yup. I don't like this lazy approach to writing/directing. Always gets my goat.

Also, I thought for sure that she was going to become Harley Quinn. The movie made it seem, at first, that she liked him and had a weird thing for him. Especially the part where she confronts him for following her and she doesn't seem disturbed at all that he followed her when he admits it.

I was thinking, "Is this pre-Harley Quinn? Well, looks like she's being cast as a person of color. Doesn't bother me, she's smokin' hot as she should be for the role. I wonder what the racist incels are going to say when she turns out to be Harley Quinn? 🙂"

Originally posted by SamZED
That... is accurate.

More working out, better eating, better dressing, better hygiene, and learn how to be rejected dozens of times. It's that easy. Well, hard. Because most people don't do it. Which makes it much easier for you to be successful if you make the effort to do it.

No reason you should be an incel. You're smart enough that you have the brains side covered for a relationship (you know, the thing that matters most for long term relationships).

Originally posted by dadudemon
More working out, better eating, better dressing, better hygiene, and learn how to be rejected dozens of times. It's that easy. Well, hard. Because most people don't do it. Which makes it much easier for you to be successful if you make the effort to do it.

I've said much the same before. found it.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Depends on what makes a person ugly, if it's physical. then proper hygiene, eating habits and exercise would probably help a good deal.

If it's personality, then getting professional help could theoretically solve most if not all of the problem.

Hell you don't even need to be super in shape just don't be obese.

Originally posted by Surtur
Hell you don't even need to be super in shape just don't be obese.

Greatly increases your chances, though, if you are very fit.

Increases your chances to get a good looking girl sure.

Go to the mall this weekend and tell me how many fat men you see with women. The women won't be super good looking, but they'll be there.

Originally posted by Surtur
Increases your chances to get a good looking girl sure.

Go to the mall this weekend and tell me how many fat men you see with women. The women won't be super good looking, but they'll be there.

An even better test:

How many of those fat men started dating those women when they were fat? And were those women fat when they started dating?

Also, you're asking he wrong person this question. Oklahoma is notorious for having fat ugly slobs paired with beautiful fit women. It's a weird thing we have going on, here. Most of the time, those relationships started with the frat-boy-conservative-type being fit. Then 5 years later, he got fat, she stayed the same.