This is actually an interesting question where DC is concerned, because the God Sphere (where the NGs live) is outside the influence of the speed force- the SF just wraps around the 3rd dimension multiverse.
So while Flash could probably affect NGs that have boom tubed into the 3rd dimension multiverse, I don't know if he could affect them if they were both in the God Sphere, because that realm is beyond the SF.
Originally posted by LordGod
This is actually an interesting question where DC is concerned, because the God Sphere (where the NGs live) is outside the influence of the speed force- the SF just wraps around the 3rd dimension multiverse.So while Flash could probably affect NGs that have boom tubed into the 3rd dimension multiverse, I don't know if he could affect them if they were both in the God Sphere, because that realm is beyond the SF.
Highfather was monitoring the disturbances and was able to feel the effects during the Flash War.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Its NLF.
Why don't you think it'll work on Darkseid, trans tiers etc
arguably it is, But we've seen that Flash has already collectively Speed Stolen for multitudes of people, including Superman, Wonder Woman, the JLA, the JSA, the Flash Family, everyone on Earthz and several billion beings from another planet, with no issue.
Jay once had an issue stealing Supes's speed too, something about taking that much energy at once possibly damaging the planet or something else weird like that. I know that Wally exceeds Jay in both power and skill so there's no direct parallel there, but it at the very least indicates that there's a lot going on when speed stealing is involved so it's probably not a good thing to assume it's without it's share of limits.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Jay once had an issue stealing Supes's speed too, something about taking that much energy at once possibly damaging the planet or something else weird like that. I know that Wally exceeds Jay in both power and skill so there's no direct parallel there, but it at the very least indicates that there's a lot going on when speed stealing is involved so it's probably not a good thing to assume it's without it's share of limits.
But I don't know if wally has limits to doing so. He's stole speed from an entire planet including Superman, Diana, J'onn, etc
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
But I don't know if wally has limits to doing so. He's stole speed from an entire planet including Superman, Diana, J'onn, etc
Originally posted by darthgoober
Right, we don't know if Wally has limits. It's not that it's been specifically established as an unlimited move, we just haven't actually seen the limit except for the time that abhi's talking about(which I freely acknowledge sounds like a low showing of the highest order) and the fact that he can't steal Zoom's speed. But honestly the Zoom thing alone throws shade on Wally's ability to steal speed from people/beings that have a weird relation with time which would include virtually all cosmic being types IMO.
Wally Speed Stealing from the actual planet.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wally Speed Stealing from the actual planet.
Assuming anything in comics is totally without limits is always a mistake. Even the Presence and TOAA have been shown to have limits. Hell, Hulk's potential for strength increase HAS been specifically addressed as being without limits but we'd still scoff at the notion of him ever getting physically strong enough to beat up high end cosmic beings.