Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Dick beat bruce and outskilled him recently in rebirth, not the 1st time it happened too.Logan should obvs be higher, so should Cap (slightly though)
logan can match cap in h2h easily, but logans mind works faster for shit then steves does as explained by beast who was running neuro checks on logan while he was in the danger room. logan trained piotr who is classified as expert in h2h, jubilee actually better fighter then piotr, trained by logan, kitty pryde, who equals betsy in h2h, and both trained by logan, storm, black widow, nightcrawler in unarmed, kurt took swordmanship from somebody else. and hes gone rds with ironfist who is second best on earth. and he did train with electrka again, and she can beat dare devil cause she has, cause shes highly ranked in h2h in marvel on eaarth. oh and logan while still mostly feral beat the crap outa chang chi who is by far the best h2h fighter on earth, alll of marvel agrees on that. its not like logan spend decades in asis training in various martial arts, then europe for a bunch, africa. he was fully trained before he fought in pretty much every war since he was born.
How are Cap and Logan better than Batman? Certainly not by the vomit you just posted.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It's like People forget Spiderman just got trained into his own unique fighting style by Shang Chi and was able to match him when done
thought the thread was talking about who is more skillfull, I mean I'm pretty sure the 1 fighting style he made is still lower than the various skills batman have(is there an official number of known martial arts bruce knows?)
Re: If Batman is a 100 in fighting skill, then..............
Captain America 95-100
Wolverine 95-100
Iron fist 105
Karate Kid ( any version ) dunno
Daredevil 95-100
Nightwing 85-90
Spiderman 30 (50 after his training with Shang and on a good day #reasonablefanboy)
Wonder Woman 90
Shang Chi 103 😛
Black Canary dunno
Mantis dunno
Barbara Gordon 65? 70? Eh...
Originally posted by abhilegend
Dick got an outlier showing, doesn't mean much honestly.How are Cap and Logan better than Batman? Certainly not by the vomit you just posted.
Yea it's vomit because you can't address it 😂
lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once
It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Spidey had his supeehuman agility, strength and speed.Shang had to rely on his skills to match him lmao.
That's like arguing Professor Hulk was trained by IF, so he's skilled in h2h....
Spiderman learn Kung Fu and how to use his natural senses better because he'd lost his spider sense. He like always had to hold back so he would be fighting on equal footing with Shang.
If hulk actually learned skilled combat having his powers wouldn't take away from his skill. Hulk ironically enough became a master combatant in planet Hulk.
the fact that he has a unique version of Kung Fu that batman doesn't know would put him ahead.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Spiderman learn Kung Fu and how to use his natural senses better because he'd lost his spider sense. He like always had to hold back so he would be fighting on equal footing with Shang.If hulk actually learned skilled combat having his powers wouldn't take away from his skill. Hulk ironically enough became a master combatant in planet Hulk.
the fact that he has a unique version of Kung Fu that batman doesn't know would put him ahead.
Of course, ignoring all the OTHER MAs Bats knows, right?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yea it's vomit because you can't address it 😂lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once
It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again
Originally posted by lawest9
Rate these guys by comparisonCaptain America
Wolverine
Iron fist
Karate Kid ( any version )
Daredevil
Nightwing
Spiderman
Wonder Woman
Shang Chi
Black Canary
Mantis
Barbara Gordon
if by fighting skill you mean, all things equal and we stuck them in an octagon, who'd do better? As opposed to, who knows the most martial arts, right?
Captain America - Gap is small enough that it doesn't matter
Wolverine - 95
Iron fist - Not sure
Karate Kid ( any version ) - 125 maybe?
Daredevil - 95
Nightwing - 90
Spiderman - Hahaha. Honestly though, not sure. Like... 70?
Wonder Woman - 90
Shang Chi - No idea
Black Canary - 90
Mantis - No idea
Barbara Gordon - 85
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yea it's vomit because you can't address it 😂lol... outlier? It happened TWICE, It's only an outlier if it occured once
It happened both in Post crisis continuity, and now in Rebirth. and Batman even notes how Dick has surpassed him, did you even read the comic or making assumptions again
Twice makes it not an outlier? Really?? Based on what?
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
...Because it's consistent...
Sometimes do you like to argue to get some attention being focused on you?Dick's beaten Bruce in their fights twice with neither of them holding back. THAT'S an outlier to you?
Saint, this is why Carver has you on ignore lmao
That's like saying Batman has fought with WW twice, therefore he consistently fights heralds.....
And WW wasn't holding back in either of their fights.
Originally posted by -Pr-
if by fighting skill you mean, all things equal and we stuck them in an octagon, who'd do better? As opposed to, who knows the most martial arts, right?Captain America - Gap is small enough that it doesn't matter
Wolverine - 95
Iron fist - Not sure
Karate Kid ( any version ) - 125 maybe?
Daredevil - 95
Nightwing - 90
Spiderman - Hahaha. Honestly though, not sure. Like... 70?
Wonder Woman - 90
Shang Chi - No idea
Black Canary - 90
Mantis - No idea
Barbara Gordon - 85
This is pretty much what I would have. Shang at 95, though.
OK?
Idc what Batman's done. I'm talking about Dick beating Bruce in h2h more than once legitimately
Batman even notes how skilled Dick's even became in the rebirth fight, Bruce even ADMITS that Dick won. How this isn't processing to you doesnt surrpise me lmao
Your point would be right if something contradicted their battles, it doesn't. If you have a scan of Bruce beating dick while both are serious by all means post it, if not my poinst stands