Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Planetary and yet inferior to the Power Stone based on feats. Furthermore, the Power Stone is ranked a universal weapon, so there's that.Well, I guess we don't know how much power was released, and still, surviving a direct impact from the power stone is a feat that outpowers anything Superman has withstood.
Perhaps, but Superman wasn't knocked out by it like Marvel.
Tony has tanked shots from the PS in IW. I guess he's stronger than Marvel and Superman according to your logic.
Originally posted by Psychotron
Perhaps, but Superman wasn't knocked out by it like Marvel.Tony has tanked shots from the PS in IW. I guess he's stronger than Marvel and Superman according to your logic.
How is strength related to durability?
The MK 50 nanosuit is a tank! Besides, we saw Iron Man making a shield and not taking a direct impact by it.
Considering that IM withstood a direct impact from a falling asteroid without being seriously damaged, withstanding an impact from the PS is a high feat for IM and not a low feat for the Power Stone.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Planetary and yet inferior to the Power Stone based on feats. Furthermore, the Power Stone is ranked a universal weapon, so there's that.Well, I guess we don't know how much power was released, and still, surviving a direct impact from the power stone is a feat that outpowers anything Superman has withstood.
Prove
1) Power stone hit her with more than 1000 tons of force
2) That anything less wouldn't have affected her (since she was koed).
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
How is strength related to durability?The MK 50 nanosuit is a tank! Besides, we saw Iron Man making a shield and not taking a direct impact by it.
Considering that IM withstood a direct impact from a falling asteroid without being seriously damaged, withstanding an impact from the PS is a high feat for IM and not a low feat for the Power Stone.
It's directly correlated.
Yeah, the MK 50 suit is nice, but it's not planetary level, which is my point. Not all power stone attacks are automatically planet-busting in power.
That asteroid feat is impressive, but he was taken out of the fight for some time and that asteroid was nowhere near planetary level power.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
If Thanos had to use the PS to harm her, then Superman would require to do the same!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Who said force had to be involve?If Thanos had to use the PS to harm her, then Superman would require to do the same!
Again you are committing a fallacy. If something koed someone then something lesser can most certainly affect them.
In other words, The PG wasn't the minimum force needed to affect CM. She was koed. Surely a portion of that force would have affected her without koing her.
And another fallacy is equating energy blasts with blunt forces.
There exists objects resistant against energy but not so much blunt force and vise versa.
Originally posted by h1a8
Again you are committing a fallacy. If something koed someone then something lesser can most certainly affect them.In other words, The PG wasn't the minimum force needed to affect CM. She was koed. Surely a portion of that force would have affected her without koing her.
And another fallacy is equating energy blasts with blunt forces.
There exists objects resistant against energy but not so much blunt force and vise versa.
Do you know the forum rules?? It seems you only invoke them when it's convinient for you.
We debate based on feats, not based on speculation.
We debate based on feats. CM feats>>>Superman. As simple as that.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Do you know the forum rules?? It seems you only invoke them when it's convinient for you.We debate based on feats, not based on speculation.
We debate based on feats. CM feats>>>Superman. As simple as that.
Yes, and you haven't proven anything. All you used was fallacies. Like I said failing to something isn't a feat.
Getting koed isn't a feat. Why are you this stupid?
You haven't given us any relavent feats showing that Superman can't affect her.
Originally posted by h1a8
Yes, and you haven't proven anything. All you used was fallacies. Like I said failing to something isn't a feat.
Getting koed isn't a feat. Why are you this stupid?You haven't given us any relavent feats showing that Superman can't affect her.
LOL! You accuse me of using fallacies, when you are asking me to prove a negative! 😂
Captain Marvel getting K.Oed by the Power Stone doesn't mean that Superman can harm her.
In other words, prove that Superman can replicate the power of the Power Stone!
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
LOL! You accuse me of using fallacies, when you are asking me to prove a negative! 😂Captain Marvel getting K.Oed by the Power Stone doesn't mean that Superman can harm her.
In other words, prove that Superman can replicate the power of the Power Stone!
Getting koed by the power stone isn't a feat. It's a failing. You can't use failure to prove a success. That's dumb as shit.
Your argument is analogous to saying that a person can't affect Charlie with a punch because Charlie was koed by a huge brick.
Originally posted by h1a8
Getting koed by the power stone isn't a feat. It's a failing. You can't use failure to prove a success. That's dumb as shit.Your argument is analogous to saying that a person can't affect Charlie with a punch because Charlie was koed by a huge brick.
Your blindness to reality is astonishing.
Thanos was being overpowered by Captain Marvel and was forced to use a Universal Class Weapon to counter her!
Thanos' power/strength>>>>Superman.
Originally posted by Psychotron
It's funny because it's ridiculous. Superman has tons of strength feats that put Thanos to shame.
LMAO. Superman was struggling to move an oil freighter! The Hulk was moving Surtur, who is wayy heavier than a ship, by casually jumping on it!
And I don't need to remind you that Thanos shamed Hulk!
DCEU son of Krypton isn't on the Mad Titan's league, sorry.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
LMAO. Superman was struggling to move an oil freighter! The Hulk was moving Surtur, who is wayy heavier than a ship, by casually jumping on it!And I don't need to remind you that Thanos shamed Hulk!
DCEU son of Krypton isn't on the Mad Titan's league, sorry.
DCEU Supes pwns base Thanos with little trouble.
Anyways, to the topic at hand:
1. Binary Carol sweeps the floor. Her super saiyan mode should make her invincible to anyone on the team; only chance is if she is in baseline mode and Diana gets some good quick slices or stabs in.
2. Team DCEU has the best lightning bruiser on film since the comic book movie craze got into full swing in Cavillman, but is he enough to combat SB Thor & Carol with the Doc as support? SB Thor and Carol (especially w/ her shields) have durability for days, and Strange can BFR or incap all of Team DCEU minus Supes and maybe Diana and/or Flash in a couple of seconds. Then again, if Team DCEU can quickly take out Strange/hold off Thor or Cap Marvel while Supes gets to concentrate on one of the MCU powerhouses...I don't know, it's still iffy for Team DCEU in my book. It's close to call on whose the big gun is here between Carol and Clark (my vote is Carol), and if Strange can stay in his support role while Marvel MVP Thor shows up and not PTSD Thor, the Justice League is going down hard. After that, Team MCU is going to take Supes down eventually.
As far as Carol vs Clark, even after Endgame I think it goes:
- Strength: Carol
- Flight/Travel Speed: Carol
- Combat/Reaction Speed: Clark
- Fighting Ability: toss-up
- Durability: I would guess Carol, but it depends if flying through a black hole outweighs taking a nuke to the face. Not trolling, I really don't know the forces involved or the math/physics behind either one. Both have flown through enough starships though.
EDIT: Added a quote instead of using a "^" sign, and added the last paragraph above.