Upside Down Man vs TOBA Hulk

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Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Stoic
Galan thank you for clearing up the haze. But as noted an alt. future doesn't mean alt. reality universe. He was still standing on 616 soil. That was something that needed to be cleared up in order to avoid invalidation.
Yes, in Marvel Alt Future means Alt Reality.

Stoic Avenger

With the same past?

xJLxKing Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
Not as cut and dry as that. There are alternate futures with the same past, and alternate futures with completely different pasts.

Doesn’t change much though

Any one universe always at one point had a similar/same history
All it takes is small a change for a what if. It invalidates anything

In 5 years, another what if...
These are not transferable feats

Stoic Avenger

But it doesn't mean that Franklin, Galactus, the Celestials, etc were any less powerful.

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by Stoic
TOBA Hulk probably eats him, but not sure if the Upside Down Man would cease to exist?
Not sure, it’s possible that TOBA just absorbs him into himself. The Upside down man had eating powers too. First one to eat the other lol I’m sure stilt would have fun with that line. Lol.

If TOBA is truly the opposite of TOAA then he’s gotta be above the opposite of Hecate. I wish we could get more info on this guy. I just hate it when these writers don’t expand on these new characters with crazy powers.

MrMind Senior Member

stoic doesn't really know who upside down man is and his brain automatically pick hulk in a battle no matter how badly hulk actually gets stomped.

quite fascinating

Stoic Avenger

Originally posted by MrMind
stoic doesn't really know who upside down man is and his brain automatically pick hulk in a battle no matter how badly hulk actually gets stomped.

quite fascinating

What's facinating is how you have yet to be banned or warned for flame baiting. Either contribute or stfu. And I can easily admit when any character is beat. Stop projecting your failings onto others idiot.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Not sure, it’s possible that TOBA just absorbs him into himself. The Upside down man had eating powers too. First one to eat the other lol I’m sure stilt would have fun with that line. Lol.

If TOBA is truly the opposite of TOAA then he’s gotta be above the opposite of Hecate. I wish we could get more info on this guy. I just hate it when these writers don’t expand on these new characters with crazy powers.

TOBA may be above UDM as it states that Bruce was the consciousness of the universe.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by Stoic
But it doesn't mean that Franklin, Galactus, the Celestials, etc were any less powerful.
Yes, it does. Just because they have the same past doesn't make them the same universe. You see exactly that in pretty much every What If.

-K-M- ...........
Originally posted by Stoic
With the same past?

Yes. Look at Maestro’s timeline as an example

Diesldude Senior Member

Guys I’m gonna have to agree with stoic on this.

It doesn’t really matter if this is an alternate universe. TOAA is the same in the marvel multiverse like the LT. If TOBA is TOAA’s counter part he would be the same entity in all marvel realities.

So even if TOBA hulk was in an alternate reality he was still possessed by the singular TOBA.

deft Senior Member

TOBA is a genuine counterpart of TOAA? If he is, then thid Hulk is multiversal is not?

carver9 Senior Member

Lol... yes, he is the opposition of TOAA. Hulk was just revealed as being TOBA child. Hulks daddy is one of the most powerful beings in the Universe.

MrMind Senior Member

people are saying TOBA is the counterpart of TOAA just because of some vague statements that don't prove anything. read these scans carefully, only the biggest hulk wanker would interpret these scans as TOBA=TOAA, straight retardation really

https://imgur.com/a/qMkmVUe

He is not even close to GEB. For starter Presence directly showed up to stop GEB when Spectre couldn't.

TOAA has not showed up once during the Immortal Hulk run and only "God" is vaguely mentioned. and "God" in Marvel could mean many things.

his best feat is killing franklin richards and galactus then devour metatron the 8th cosmo which is a universe

these feats, Upside Down Man is all capable of replicating

Upside Down Man is casually multiversal, hell Witchmarked Wonder Woman is casually multiversal and Upside Down Man is superior to Hecate

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by MrMind
people are saying TOBA is the counterpart of TOAA just because of some vague statements that don't prove anything. read these scans carefully, only the biggest hulk wanker would interpret these scans as TOBA=TOAA, straight retardation really

https://imgur.com/a/qMkmVUe

He is not even close to GEB. For starter Presence directly showed up to stop GEB when Spectre couldn't.

TOAA has not showed up once during the Immortal Hulk run and only "God" is vaguely mentioned. and "God" in Marvel could mean many things.

his best feat is killing franklin richards and galactus then devour metatron the 8th cosmo which is a universe

these feats, Upside Down Man is all capable of replicating

Upside Down Man is casually multiversal, hell Witchmarked Wonder Woman is casually multiversal and Upside Down Man is superior to Hecate

IDK im just going by Intent. there has to be a reason why they named him TOBA.

Im still waiting for an explanation on how the hulk defeated him with a thunder clap and got possessed at the same time.

MrMind Senior Member

Originally posted by Diesldude
IDK im just going by Intent. there has to be a reason why they named him TOBA.

Im still waiting for an explanation on how the hulk defeated him with a thunder clap and got possessed at the same time.

we can't just automatically assume TOBA=TOAA from his name LOL

Diesldude Senior Member

Originally posted by MrMind
we can't just automatically assume TOBA=TOAA from his name LOL
True.

Adam Grimes Devil On Your Shoulder

Originally posted by MrMind
we can't just automatically assume TOBA=TOAA from his name LOL
The same way we can't assume that Franklin, Galactus and Metatron were as powerful as their main counterpart. Specially since TOBA did all of that off-panel.

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Diesldude
IDK im just going by Intent. there has to be a reason why they named him TOBA.

Im still waiting for an explanation on how the hulk defeated him with a thunder clap and got possessed at the same time.

It's simple, Superman defeated World Forger, he did KILL him. With that said, since WF wasnt killed, he can attack Superman again. What does defeat mean to you?

Diesldude Senior Member
Originally posted by carver9
It's simple, Superman defeated World Forger, he did KILL him. With that said, since WF wasnt killed, he can attack Superman again. What does defeat mean to you?

Superman defeated and stopped WF from accomplishing his goal.

Hulk supposedly defeated TOBA so he could leave from the hell he was in. But he got possessed instead. So how did he defeat TOBA again?

carver9 Senior Member

Originally posted by Diesldude
Superman defeated and stopped WF from accomplishing his goal.

Hulk supposedly defeated TOBA so he could leave from the hell he was in. But he got possessed instead. So how did he defeat TOBA again?

Your post doesnt make sense. Hulk merging back with Banner is the reason he was able to escape hell, it had nothing to do with the One Below all. Hulk closed the gates behind him and escaped.

You're question is like me asking "Shazam defeated Eclipso so how was Eclipso able to possess Superman". Lol, he came back, jumped into Superman body and possessed him. Simple.