Originally posted by Darth Thor
Valkyrie was also very explicit with her words:“LIKE YOU she draws her power from Asgard”
Getting a bit tired of repeating myself to you and h1.
Try using actual quotes from the film in future, then you may realise your error before hand.
When did I denied such words? How does that contradict the All Father's comment?
She drawing her power from Asgard just proves my point, that she is more powerful on Asgard, and in that aspect, all her Asgard feats are invalid for this debate.
Getting tired of you not watching the movie.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When did I denied such words? How does that contradict the All Father's comment?She drawing her power from Asgard just proves my point, that she is more powerful on Asgard, and in that aspect, all her Asgard feats are invalid for this debate.
Getting tired of you not watching the movie.
Does Thor also draw power from Asgard? Does he seem depowered when not on Asgard?
Originally posted by FrothByte
Does Thor also draw power from Asgard? Does he seem depowered when not on Asgard?
We are debating Hela, and how she behaved in the movie. Using Thor to try deviating the facts is a poor tactic.
Odin made it clear that Hela would be unstoppable once she was on Asgard, Thor also made it clear to Loki not to open the portal to Asgard. Surtur destroying Asgard was the entire plot created to stop Hela.
Did Thor lost his powers when Asgard was destroyed?
Thor is not my concern here, Hela is.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We are debating Hela, and how she behaved in the movie. Using Thor to try deviating the facts is a poor tactic.Odin made it clear that Hela would be unstoppable once she was on Asgard, Thor also made it clear to Loki not to open the portal to Asgard. Surtur destroying Asgard was the entire plot created to stop Hela.
Did Thor lost his powers when Asgard was destroyed?
Thor is not my concern here, Hela is.
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Tbh I don't understand how your mind works.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We are debating Hela, and how she behaved in the movie. Using Thor to try deviating the facts is a poor tactic.Odin made it clear that Hela would be unstoppable once she was on Asgard, Thor also made it clear to Loki not to open the portal to Asgard. Surtur destroying Asgard was the entire plot created to stop Hela.
Did Thor lost his powers when Asgard was destroyed?
Thor is not my concern here, Hela is.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Hela still destroyed Mjolnir outside of Asgard and made necro swords outside of Asgard. She also easily trounced Loki and Thor in the bifrost when they got thrown to Sakaar.
I agree. Yet Thor endured her, even if for some time.
Carol was going toe to toe with Thanos, who was forced to use the PS to knock her back.
Hela just doesn't have enough showings for this match. Make no mistake, I'd give Hela the win on Asgard.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I agree. Yet Thor endured her, even if for some time.Carol was going toe to toe with Thanos, who was forced to use the PS to knock her back.
Hela just doesn't have enough showings for this match. Make no mistake, I'd give Hela the win on Asgard.
Endured her? Hela dispatched Thor in a lot less time than the fight between Carol and Thanos.
If not already posted: Avengers: Endgame Proves Hela Is More Powerful Than Thanos
An unarmed Hela disintegrated Thor's hammer just by holding it in her bare hand. It took Thanos a significant effort to break Captain America's shield, but Hela destroyed Mjolnir with ease. And there's no mistaking which weapon is made of the strongest material. Captain America's shield may be made out of vibranium, but even that can't compete with uru metal, which far outshines anything forged by mortals. -snip
So if Hela really is more powerful than Thanos, why did nearly every hero in the MCU have to come together to fight him, when Hela was challenged by only a handful of super-powered characters? That's because Thor engineered Hela's fall by having Surtur kill her. This means that Thor never technically defeated Hela. In fact, he came closer to beating Thanos in Infinity War than he ever did with his sister. -snip
edit: Should also be noted that Surtur in full power didn't directly defeat Hela either, he destroyed her by destroying Asgard, her source of power
Thanos fanboys just have to accept that a lady is more powerful than the big purple goon, unless he has the IG.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
I agree. Yet Thor endured her, even if for some time.Carol was going toe to toe with Thanos, who was forced to use the PS to knock her back.
Hela just doesn't have enough showings for this match. Make no mistake, I'd give Hela the win on Asgard.
He endured her? She took his eye without breaking a sweat. Even in his upgraded form he was no match for her.
Straight out of hell while having not been on Asgard for tens of thousands of years she crushed his hammer like it was nothing. She hadn’t been on Asgard is countless years.
Her hammer crush feat is actually above anything she did while on Asgard.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Endured her? Hela dispatched Thor in a lot less time than the fight between Carol and Thanos.
Except Thanos used the PS and Hela was on Asgard.
You see the gap in your arguments?
I don't think Hela's normal necroswords would be able to penetrate Carols' energy shield.
Outside Asgard Hela lacks the power.
Originally posted by Robtard
If not already posted: Avengers: Endgame Proves Hela Is More Powerful Than ThanosAn unarmed Hela disintegrated Thor's hammer just by holding it in her bare hand. It took Thanos a significant effort to break Captain America's shield, but Hela destroyed Mjolnir with ease. And there's no mistaking which weapon is made of the strongest material. Captain America's shield may be made out of vibranium, but even that can't compete with uru metal, which far outshines anything forged by mortals. -snip
So if Hela really is more powerful than Thanos, why did nearly every hero in the MCU have to come together to fight him, when Hela was challenged by only a handful of super-powered characters? That's because Thor engineered Hela's fall by having Surtur kill her. This means that Thor never technically defeated Hela. In fact, he came closer to beating Thanos in Infinity War than he ever did with his sister. -snip
edit: Should also be noted that Surtur in full power didn't directly defeat Hela either, he destroyed her by destroying Asgard, her source of power
Thanos fanboys just have to accept that a lady is more powerful than the big purple goon, unless he has the IG.
On Asgard, I agree.
The strength of crushing Mjolnir seems to be abscent from battle, as on Asgard Hela, although she was toying Thor, she wasn't showing such power.
And still, this battle concerns Hela outside of Asgard, where her durability and overall power is unknown.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
When did I denied such words? How does that contradict the All Father's comment?She drawing her power from Asgard just proves my point, that she is more powerful on Asgard, and in that aspect, all her Asgard feats are invalid for this debate.
Getting tired of you not watching the movie.
Me not watching the movie? You POS 😠
Stop switching the goal posts every 5 seconds. You claimed Hela didnt dispatch Thor quickly DESPITE being on Asgard. As if being on Asgard is an advantage for her only.
Ive then corrected your misrepresentation of the movie quotes. And your general cherry picking of movie evidence to form your own head canon by misrepresenting true canon.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
We didn't saw her ouside of Asgard long enough to make either statement (She being as strong or she being as weak).We don't know how powerful she is ouside Asgard nor how durable she is.
Long enough? Crushing mjolnir, thrashing Thor and Loki , even making her necroswords and all consistent with her showing on Asgard.
So we know how powerful she is outside of Asgard.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Except Thanos used the PS and Hela was on Asgard.You see the gap in your arguments?
I don't think Hela's normal necroswords would be able to penetrate Carols' energy shield.
Outside Asgard Hela lacks the power.
Yes, and Thanos used the IG with 4 stones to defeat IM. Does that mean that IM is more powerful than Carol?
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
On Asgard, I agree.The strength of crushing Mjolnir seems to be abscent from battle, as on Asgard Hela, although she was toying Thor, she wasn't showing such power.
And still, this battle concerns Hela outside of Asgard, where her durability and overall power is unknown.
Her strongest feat shown was off Asgard. You have no idea what you are talking about.