He's just trolling.
It was clearly stated that Warworld absorbed the Imperiex energy. Then B13 used the full thruster countermeasures of Imperiex-amped Warworld to [unsuccessfully] try and prevent Superman from pushing it through a Boom Tube to the beginning of time. Then Warworld goes kablooey and triggers a new big bang.
Originally posted by JBL
Hmm, where is it stated that he's using that energy? No one has shown the statement.
Yeah, it can be debated because the ship/planet already had thrusters before digesting Imperiex energy. I dont know why people are ruling this out. Hulkster question isnt wrong. About to post the scene.
Originally posted by carver9
Yeah, it can be debated because the ship/planet already had thrusters before digesting Imperiex energy. I dont know why people are ruling this out. Hulkster question isnt wrong. About to post the scene.
Thank you!
They want to toss around “troll” so hypocritically, but every statement of the utilization of Imperiex’s power references its use for conjoining planets throughout the universe and the ability to do so will increase as the power grows within him. So there is even a time period needed for Braniac to be able to fully use the power for that particular reason and we don’t know what other limits Braniac has in using the power.
Nowhere is it stated nor implied that the power is being directed or redirected into the thrusters. And as you say, War World already had thrusters beforehand. Clearly if the writer meant for Superman to be pushing against Imperiex powered thrusters, he would have at least alluded to that in some form or fashion.
John Henry says “you’re moving a planet”. Braniac says “how is he moving my planet?” and “full thruster countermeasure”. No mention of overpowering Imperiex. Heck, Imperiex is consciously pulling for Superman to succeed. He moves a planet which was formally Pluto (why did someone earlier say that it dwarfed Earth in size?) and continues to move it against its thrusters. Great feat in an enhanced state, but that is all to it until someone can provide proof otherwise. Fanboy speculation, fan fiction, over-extrapolation, "AMBIGUITY", etc. do not count.
How about prove your own words first?
So there is even a time period needed for Braniac to be able to fully use the power for that particular reason and we don’t know what other limits Braniac has in using the power
Nowhere is it stated nor implied that the power is being directed or redirected into the thrusters
War World already had thrusters beforehand
Oh speaking about writer's intentions, Joe Casey was clearly said Superman is unstoppable and even may have the power to stop Imperiex even when he's not sundipped 😛
RC: Juggernaut? Doomsday? Galactus? No one short of Imperiex himself?And then he laid down the law, simple as that.
JOE CASEY: At that point, Superman is unbeatable. Had he not snapped out of it when Doomsday got fried, he might�ve been able to stop Imperiex right then and there.
And I am not required to provide proof. I am making no assertions. Prove that the thrusters are thrusting with Imperiex power. I've seen none so far. Your scan actually defeats your purpose be cause it shows the writer's desire to specify when something is stoked by Imperiex's power. No such reference is made regarding the thrusters. That's pure fan speculation and your own trolling.
Originally posted by TheHulksterHow about posted the full scans and let us see the context.
https://imgur.com/a/leiDoYbAnd I am not required to provide proof. I am making no assertions. Prove that the thrusters are thrusting with Imperiex power. I've seen none so far. Your scan actually defeats your purpose be cause it shows the writer's desire to specify when something is stoked by Imperiex's power. No such reference is made regarding the thrusters. That's pure fan speculation and your own trolling.
There is no context that changes the statement. All you have added is a hyperbolical statement. No mention of thrusters. Based on the criteria that most on your side tosses out, the nature of the thrusters is "ambiguous", and therefore defaults to their normal thrust (which is the point of the thrusters being there before all of this).
Originally posted by TheHulksterThrusters are attached to Brainiac's planet and they're motive power of the planet and it's energies come from Imperiex. Like rocket thrusters need fuel/energy to make it work🙂
There is no context that changes the statement. All you have added is a hyperbolical statement. No mention of thrusters. Based on the criteria that most on your side tosses out, the nature of the thrusters is "ambiguous", and therefore defaults to their normal thrust (which is the point of the thrusters being there before all of this).
Two different things. Brainiac made it very clear he was using his full thruster countermeasures(I.E, He was doing his best)to prevent(But unscuccessfully) Superman from pushing it through boom tube.
It was like saying Superman using his full powers to fight his opponent and Superman fighting with opponent are the same thing
And the comics very clearly stated Brainiac had the power of imperiex and used it to become the universe mind by absorbing planet after planet
"....Stolen the essence of imperiex and made it his own. Utilizing this(Imperiex's) unfathomable power"
https://ibb.co/ygJ5GGv
It was said "growing" only just referring Brainiac wants expanding his mind by absorbing planets and becoming all that there is
https://ibb.co/5rj8tTW
https://ibb.co/ygJ5GGv
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Two different things. Brainiac made it very clear he was using his full thruster countermeasures(I.E, He was doing his best)to prevent(But unscuccessfully) Superman from pushing it through boom tube.
It was like saying Superman using his full powers to fight his opponent and Superman fighting with opponent are the same thing
And the comics very clearly stated Brainiac had the power of imperiex and used it to become the universe mind by absorbing planet after planet
"....Stolen the essence of imperiex and made it his own. Utilizing this(Imperiex's) unfathomable power"
https://ibb.co/ygJ5GGv
It was said "growing" only just referring Brainiac wants expanding his mind by absorbing planets and becoming all that there is
https://ibb.co/5rj8tTW
https://ibb.co/ygJ5GGv
'Growing" references the energy inside of him and clearly references the process of incorporating it. What you state about that is made up. When Imperiex power is used to stoke something, it is stated. You have no proof that Superman is pushing against Imperiex power, thus you have an ambiguous scene. This more than fits the ambiguity standard so often put out here.
Originally posted by TheHulksterLol, Here it was Brainiac's energies(Imperiex/the big band)
'Growing" references the energy inside of him and clearly references the process of incorporating it. What you state about that is made up. When Imperiex power is used to stoke something, it is stated. You have no proof that Superman is pushing against Imperiex power, thus you have an ambiguous scene. Thus more than fits the ambiguity standard so often put out here.
Originally posted by qwertyuiop1998
Lol, Here it was Brainiac's energies(Imperiex/the big band)
"Superman helped teleport the android to the dawn of creation.There,Brainiac 13's Energies, Coupled with the "big bang' itself, created two vast explosions that scattered brainiac's consciousness over 60 trillion light years"
https://ibb.co/4gYyTsz
"Two big bangs"
https://ibb.co/KVK7n4v
"....Stolen the essence of imperiex and made it his own. Utilizing this(Imperiex's) unfathomable power"
https://ibb.co/ygJ5GGv
I didn't how to make it more clear for you to understand.Brainiac already had taken the power of imperiex the guidebook even referring the big bang energies as brainiac's energies.The comic stated Brainiac made it(imperiex powers)his own.
No one is saying that he doesn't have possession of the energy. Clearly when they say the power is growing, it means that his ability to utilize the energy is developing. It certainly is not some expanding of his mind. 😆