Originally posted by abhilegend
And?
For one arc. Rest of the times J'onn is a punching bag.Flash is only a threat for Superman because we ignore his 99% of showings.
Never happened. Their power sets were stated to be more dangerous due to time travel involved.
That doesn't negate the fact that Superman has said it. Wally saying it about Superman doesn't make it true, just like Superman saying it about MMH doesn't make it true.
Will keep repeating it as necessary.
Originally posted by abhilegend
And?
For one arc. Rest of the times J'onn is a punching bag.Flash is only a threat for Superman because we ignore his 99% of showings.
Never happened. Their power sets were stated to be more dangerous due to time travel involved.
Someone who was a rookie and inexperienced at speed stealing did this to Superman, Wally is DEF speed stealing Supes with ZERO trouble
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That doesn't negate the fact that Superman has said it. Wally saying it about Superman doesn't make it true, just like Superman saying it about MMH doesn't make it true.
It was for that arc as Fernus did beat Superman. Later writers turned him into a punching bag again. Flash has never beaten Superman (never even came close to it).
Will keep repeating it as necessary.
Repeating nonsense doesn't makes it true.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Someone who was a rookie and inexperienced at speed stealing did this to Superman, Wally is DEF speed stealing Supes with ZERO trouble
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Flash has Speed Stolen Superman AND Wonder Woman at the same time
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
If Superman tried to grab him, Flash can phase out of his grasp. He's done it multiple times.
Freeze breath will absolutely beat Flash (like Captain Cold has already done to Flash, multiple times).
Originally posted by abhilegend
It was for that arc as Fernus did beat Superman. Later writers turned him into a punching bag again. Flash has never beaten Superman (never even came close to it).Repeating nonsense doesn't makes it true.
What nonsense? That characters frequently give props that doesn't necessarily are truth?
Originally posted by abhilegend
Awesome. What's your point? Superman generates his own speed and if you can generate your own speed, you can break out of speed steal like both Inertia and Thawne have shown.
Superman has already beaten intangible opponents.Freeze breath will absolutely beat Flash (like Captain Cold has already done to Flash, multiple times).
LOL, Freeze Breath? Flash literally taught Supergirl how to counter freezing attacks and AZ by vibrating. Not only that, Flash can outrun it. He even casually outean Supes'heat vision.
and first of all, Zoom dodnt counter Speed Steal by generating his own Speed. He did it because of his connection to the Forever Force, which allows him to speed himself up via Time Manipulation. It wasn't speed that let Zoom counter Speed Steal, it w as Time Hax. And you have to read the comics. Inertia didn't free himself from being Speed Stolen, Zoom did, again, via time Hax. -_'
proof of Zoom breaking Inertia out of Speed Steal via Forever Force/Time Hax:
So ABHI your argument that Superman can counter Speed Steal via speed alone is debunked, especially since your 'evidence'to back your claim was using Zoom and Inertia, who didn't even counter it with Speed, but with Time Manipulation.
Wally, cadually Speed Stealing Superman without even being near him.
^SEVERAL examples/instances of flash/flashes phasing through prime, and superman
Even XS, a lower tier Speedste, phased through Superboy Prime who is >> Superman effortlessly.
So with what I have proven about the Flashes being able to phase through Kryptonians, I see no reason why Wally cant phase through Superman and kill him like this, especially if Supes is already slowed to a stop via Speed Steal.
And lets not forget, Wally phased through and destroyed the massively durable armor of an AMPED COIE Anti Monitor. He completely obliterated his armor via phasing. Mind you, Wally was weak and on the verge of collapsing at this time AND he just got done giving some of his Speed to Superman and the rest of the JL to amp them.