Originally posted by lawest9
I believe what WF is saying is that he didn't have the strength to raise his arms let alone his hammer, don't mean he didn't have his hammer.
Why even mention the hammer if it isnt needed. Especially since during the end of it, he walked over to the hammer, lifted it and used it to create a portal. So he DID have the strength to lift his arm AND the hammer.
Originally posted by carver9I'm going off of his words, not his actions, we often say we can't do things until we find out that we were wrong after trying, it's possible that the hammer is just a conduit for him to focus the energies through ot that is within him just like Thor with Mjolnir and Orion with his harness and wrist band to channel his Astro Force.
Why even mention the hammer if it isnt needed. Especially since during the end of it, he walked over to the hammer, lifted it and used it to create a portal. So he DID have the strength to lift his arm AND the hammer.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85. 👆 they are outright ignoring the power required to do what WF does.
Well, yeah.But the main point is that the hammer itself doesn't provide power.
Carver is misunderstanding, and Hulkster is jumping on the bandwagon.
Dieseldude's original post on the subject states that the scan proves that the POWER required comes from WF. The hammer doesn't provide any power.
Originally posted by lawest9
I'm going off of his words, not his actions, we often say we can't do things until we find out that we were wrong after trying, it's possible that the hammer is just a conduit for him to focus the energies through ot that is within him just like Thor with Mjolnir and Orion with his harness and wrist band to channel his Astro Force.
He admits he needs the hammer though. Now if he said I WANT the hammer to do this task, then that would be a different story here but he said he NEED the hammer.
Reminder that this is how it started.
Originally posted by Diesldude
Further proof that the power to create multiverses is all from WF and not the hammer or the anvil.
Originally posted by carver9
Lol... he states in the scan your quoting that he needs his hammer.
What does needing the hammer have to do with the power?
The main point is that the hammer itself doesn't provide power.
Dieseldude's original post on the subject states that the scan proves that the POWER required comes from WF. The hammer doesn't provide any power.
Originally posted by lawest9
I'm going off of his words, not his actions, we often say we can't do things until we find out that we were wrong after trying, it's possible that the hammer is just a conduit for him to focus the energies through ot that is within him just like Thor with Mjolnir and Orion with his harness and wrist band to channel his Astro Force.
We are basing something on speculation of what is possible? We have seen Thor command lightning without Mjolnir. We have seen Orion use the AF without his harness. We also know that there are things Thor can't do without Mjolnir (such as creating portals). And how does a declaration of needing to provide sufficient strength to get an effect from the hammer equate to none of the power coming from the hammer?
And how is it lowballing when the hammer is part of his standard gear? Anything he does with the hammer is attributed to him. And every bio describes his hammer as a "cosmic hammer".
Has Alpheus done fears with other hammers? What feats has he done without his hammer?
Originally posted by lawest9
Like I said.........the hammer is likely a conduit for his power to flow through.
Not true. He had to wait until the hammer lit up to strike the anvil during the time Superman caved his face in. If it was something he could've achieved on his own, he wouldnt have to wait.