Originally posted by Darth Thor
But I guess unlike Palpatine, Reys amp was a one off temp one right?Standard Rey was still
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beaten by Kylo.
At
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the end, sure, but earlier in the movie she was pulling ships out of the sky and intuiting the use of Force Lightning. That alone is almost enough to put her above everyone bar the most powerful users.
Originally posted by -Pr-
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the end, sure, but earlier in the movie she was pulling ships out of the sky and intuiting the use of Force Lightning. That alone is almost enough to put her above everyone bar the most powerful users.
Going by pure feats on inanimate objects? Yeah maybe. But we still have to powerscale.
I remember in Rebels 2 Inquistors also held off a ship with its engines on. And the likes of Ahsoka and Maul were well beyond Inquisitors.
And despite
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that feat of Reys, Kylo still beat her, and he never actually displayed Force Lightning, despite being a dark sider fr so long.
But yeah
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force lightning in general
Originally posted by Psychotron
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was losing a lightsaber duel, but she's better than him in a raw force abilities judging by the ship feat.
Thats possible. Like Mace Windu best Palpatine in a Saber duel, but clearly wasnt his equal in the Force.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
Maybe I'm missed something, but where was the amp said to be temporary? There literally doesn't seem to be anything stopping it from happening again.
Seems like a one off, otherwise any future threat would be trivial if she can just call upon all the Jedi whenever. Or it'll delude it down the line, making it end up being not so special.
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Seemed to me like it was a one-off/moment of crisis sort of thing... But I suppose she could technically gain the amp again IF she encountered a threat on one-Sith Palpatine's level(which seems unlikely.)
Only problem is
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the power/effort might kill her again... Except next time Ben won't be around to resurrect her.
Originally posted by Galan007
👆Seemed to me like it was a one-off/moment of crisis sort of thing... But I suppose she could technically gain the amp again.
Only problem is
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it might kill her again... Except next time Ben won't be around to resurrect her.
Unless she somehow gets over that problem too. 🙄
But then, that would just delude it. I honestly doubt many writers would even incorporate it, given the risks.
Originally posted by ZenwolfIt's not like it was a freak accident or a scene of immense tension like Kanan fighting Maul. All of the Jedi consciously gave her their power. I don't see anything stopping them from doing it again other than "the Holdo maneuver is one in a million" lampshading. 😂
Seems like a one off, otherwise any future threat would be trivial if she can just call upon all the Jedi whenever. Or it'll delude it down the line, making it end up being not so special.
Yeah, she should be able to stop any threat now, but with force ghost being to physically interact with the world now, that should be the case regardless of whether Rey is around or not.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
It's not like it was a freak accident or a scene of immense tension like Kanan fighting Maul. All of the Jedi consciously gave her their power. I don't see anything stopping them from doing it again other than "the Holdo maneuver is one in a million" lampshading. 😂Yeah, she should be able to stop any threat now, but with force ghost being to physically interact with the world now, that should be the case regardless of whether Rey is around or not.
...Yeah that's also a thing, which means either writers is just gonna have to flat out ignore that stuff...which seems possibly, it's not like the movies themselves haven't already ignored stuff, so why should the writers have to follow anything anyway?
Or they have to come up with some convenient way that the Ghosts just up and disappear, like a limited timespan they can be within the physical world before fully dissipating...or whatever. Which granted this was also a thing in previous Canon and since writers and the like just keep pulling stuff from it, it would probably be the most logical sense to go.
Originally posted by Dark-Kenshin
It's not like it was a freak accident or a scene of immense tension like Kanan fighting Maul. All of the Jedi consciously gave her their power. I don't see anything stopping them from doing it again other than "the Holdo maneuver is one in a million" lampshading. 😂Yeah, she should be able to stop any threat now, but with force ghost being to physically interact with the world now, that should be the case regardless of whether Rey is around or not.
There could be limitations on what they can do. Also only the “Jedi” can force ghost seems a bit one sided.
But it’s not like Yoda is going to come back and force lightning sith, if there are any more sith to begin with.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Thats possible. Like Mace Windu best Palpatine in a Saber duel, but clearly wasnt his equal in the Force.
We have to remember that Kylo had trained for many years as a Jedi and Sith, while Rey about a year of training under Leia. Her lightsaber skills aren't going to be as refined as Kylo's but her raw Force power is superior. Poor lad has been giving it his all to the dark side and he can't conjure Force lightning, while Rey gets a little bit angry and destroys a whole ship with it.
Originally posted by Psychotron
but her raw Force power is superior.
It shouldnt be though given hes a Skywalker and her merely a Palpatine. Skywalkers > Palpatines in potential and raw power.
The superior training is supposedly moot due to the Dyad nonsense between them. He can do whatever she can (force healing), and her whatever he can (force mind control in Force Awakens before she had any training). I know its stupid, but that appears to be their explanation for her Mary Sueness.