Originally posted by socool8520
^ what suggestions do you have for fixing that? Besides Gun control, that's obvious. This is a pretty difficult problem to solve.
I've posted on this topic many times with the solutions. If I'm not feeling lazy later today, I'll dig up my old posts.
More gun control is not on the list of solutions.
Originally posted by dadudemon
I've posted on this topic many times with the solutions. If I'm not feeling lazy later today, I'll dig up my old posts.More gun control is not on the list of solutions.
now that you mention it, I think we have went back and forth on this before. My memory sucks sometimes.
Originally posted by socool8520
now that you mention it, I think we have went back and forth on this before. My memory sucks sometimes.
Perhaps but I think I only talked to Snowdragon at length about the topic a couple of years back.
From what I can remember from my research:
There is the trust building that police need to do with the people (there was lengthy article of many many different items the police need to do to rebuild the trust). Black people have the last amount of trust for the police of any race demographic, by far. Not even right-wing libertarians come even close to the distrust black people have of the police.
Universal Healthcare is huge for helping stop the violence and improve the Black-Plight
Having a healthcare option regardless of employment status is very helpful for mental health, substance abuse cessation programs, and overall health.
Culture of education-hate
The black culture of "selling out to be an Uncle Tom" has to die and die quickly. Many black people realize how important and education is. But this type of culture is so pervasive that it is one of the biggest destroyers of black-socio-economic mobility (the true way a people genuinely can rise up out of the cycle of poverty and violence is SEM).
This one in particular irritates me. I volunteer with a local black-youth charity group. It focuses on getting young men of color (but almost all are black) out of the cycle of violence and consistently into school. The hate for education and the perception that it makes you a sellout is TOXIC AS F*CK and I hate it with a passion.
End Welfare and Make Black Fathers Become Dads
This is it. This is 90% of all of it. Maybe even 95% of all of it. The single worst thing that Democrats have done is destroyed the black family unit with welfare programs that arose from the Civil Rights Movement. Talk to any social worker: even in black families where one or both parents are abusive, the children all have far better outcomes than single parent homes. Having a father and a mother in the same home while the children grow up is the single best thing any parents can do for their children. Don't do drugs and teach your children to be functioning adults and you've succeeded.
Democrats and leftists don't like to talk about this. It's considered racist to consider the fact that the Civil Rights Movement destroyed black families. But that's what happened.
https://www.city-journal.org/html/black-family-40-years-lies-12872.html
Somehow, we have to teach black youth to not have babies until they are married. The universal healthcare options may help with that: we need free contraceptives readily available to the masses.
The only ones who openly criticise "love 'em and leave 'em" culture are perceived racists.
There's a reason Mike Bloomberg said he only talked about black gun violence at a church because he knew the audience would he receptive with a preacher always talking about it.
And that's the key. No outsider can get away with criticism of black culture, AT ALL. Period.
The problem of fatherless children will remain a problem as long as the community accepts it as part of their culture.
Originally posted by cdtm
The only ones who openly criticise "love 'em and leave 'em" culture are perceived racists.There's a reason Mike Bloomberg said he only talked about black gun violence at a church because he knew the audience would he receptive with a preacher always talking about it.
And that's the key. No outsider can get away with criticism of black culture, AT ALL. Period.
The problem of fatherless children will remain a problem as long as the community accepts it as part of their culture.
They went from 90%+ core families with marriages to something ridiculous like 17%.
Look at the policies and see what happened to destroy the black family unit.
We should just have black people join the Mormon Church (LDS). Family is strongly emphasized, sex-before-marriage a no-no, and abortion not okay outside of the obvious exceptions. The LDS church also has a strong welfare program, excellent financial stability, and job assistance programs (help people get to work). Lastly, Mormons strongly believe in an education. These address all the problems that plague the black community.
Originally posted by dadudemon
They went from 90%+ core families with marriages to something ridiculous like 17%.Look at the policies and see what happened to destroy the black family unit.
We should just have black people join the Mormon Church (LDS). Family is strongly emphasized, sex-before-marriage a no-no, and abortion not okay outside of the obvious exceptions. The LDS church also has a strong welfare program, excellent financial stability, and job assistance programs (help people get to work). Lastly, Mormons strongly believe in an education. These address all the problems that plague the black community.
After reading the entire article several times, one thing that sticks out is the seemingly coordinated attack on the data.
I wish I could be a fly on the wall at the CDC and other organizations and universities, to see how these decisions get made. Is it a coincidence that they pile on? Are they in contact with each other, or rely on the same think tanks?
Are these responses thought through at all. Or is there some emotional, indignant CEO's who feel personally injured, and throw the weight of their organizations behind a counter attack?
I mean, anyone who's worked for anyone knows the people at the top can do literally whatever they want, and you have to do what THEY want. So if they say "What racist bs. I want that message taken down, NOW" without a second glance, that's what you do. Or you leave.
Originally posted by dadudemon
They went from 90%+ core families with marriages to something ridiculous like 17%.Look at the policies and see what happened to destroy the black family unit.
We should just have black people join the Mormon Church (LDS). Family is strongly emphasized, sex-before-marriage a no-no, and abortion not okay outside of the obvious exceptions. The LDS church also has a strong welfare program, excellent financial stability, and job assistance programs (help people get to work). Lastly, Mormons strongly believe in an education. These address all the problems that plague the black community.
Doesn't Christianity also promote a lot of those things. I don't think religion change will help them. It is one of those things that will be very hard to change.
Originally posted by socool8520
Doesn't Christianity also promote a lot of those things. I don't think religion change will help them. It is one of those things that will be very hard to change.
I was being facetious. But 10% serious.
There are entire congregations in Oakland, of Mormons, that are almost all black. And I love it.