Silver Surfer with Mjolnir vs Thanos

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I mean it's not a stretch. Besides op says he can hold it so moot argument.

No.

He did beat Knull and his minions/wrecked some cancerverse characters. Plus I'm banking on his intangibility as a strong counter.

Unusual for someone to make such a redundant thread then take sides in the OP

Originally posted by Insane Titan
knull isn’t impressive at all feat wise., he’s not even above Thanos. Thanos beat the shit out of the cancerverse avatar empowered by their gods. His intangibility is nothing to worry about for Thanos , weaker Thanos clones he created dealt with vision intangibility like it was child’s play.

Knull was depicted as being impressive in SS:Black. So that's all that matters.

It's debatable but he's definitely a peer.

Not going to low-ball back and forth

His intangibility is different from Visions. You know that and he hasn't been affected physically so I see no reason why he would be now.

Because he can hold Mjolnir. So he's def got different intangibility, even if it's just his hand lol

Your point Saint?

He's not fully intangible in this thread, if he can hold Mjolnir. So if nothing else, his hand/arm is physically vulnerable. Assuming we are using current intangible Surfer.

If not, then he's FULLY vulnerable.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Knull was depicted as being impressive in SS:Black. So that's all that matters.

It's debatable but he's definitely a peer.

Not going to low-ball back and forth

His intangibility is different from Visions. You know that and he hasn't been affected physically so I see no reason why he would be now.

It’s not debatable tbh Lord Marvell was clearly shown to be above other cancerverse characters. He was owning the Annihilators including Surfer. The had to combine their powers just to survive attack.

No low balling here just facts.

How so ? Intangibility is all the same. Thanos dealt with people vie his own powerset going astral form/phasing.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's not fully intangible in this thread, if he can hold Mjolnir. So if nothing else, his hand/arm is physically vulnerable. Assuming we are using current intangible Surfer.

If not, then he's FULLY vulnerable.

Not sure if serious. It's current surfer.. unless otherwise stated, which means he's intangible. OP said he could wield mjolnir so it's safe to assume it is either mind controlled or held in some metaphysical way.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
More than Thanos , not a chance. hell I don’t think it could be named in anything Knull did that Thanos couldnt. Thanos was physically effecting Thane with the full PF who was destroying world for fun (and I’ve posted the scans countless times that Thanos has no power up)

It’s not debatable tbh Lord Marvell was clearly shown to be above other cancerverse characters. He was owning the Annihilators including Surfer. The had to combine their powers just to survive attack.

No low balling here just facts.

How so ? Intangibility is all the same. Thanos dealt with people vie his own powerset going astral form/phasing.

Base Thanos IT, don't confuse his power ups feats with what he can do on his own. And Thane? That's your go to? Thane was a terrible PF user. He has shown multiple times to be weak-willed. He was manipulated since inception by , Ebony Maw, Avengers, Death, the Black Order. Find a better feat to debate.

Your point?

Intangibility is not all the same. Vision has dimensional density shifting, Kitty merges with the surrounding molecules, Flash vibrates his molecules..etc. countering one doesn't mean you can counter another.

Where does OP say he can wield it, and that he can hold it?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Where does OP say he can wield it, and that he can hold it?

Debate or ignore my posts Dark. I don't do circular arguments.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Debate or ignore my posts Dark. I don't do circular arguments.

I am debating it.

Your central argument is that 'OP says he can hold it'

Originally posted by Sin I AM
I mean it's not a stretch. Besides op says he can hold it so moot argument.

Then said OP said he could wield it. I don't see OP saying that.

In short, you are assuming he is using current (intangible) Surfer and is issuing mind commands, or holding it in a metaphysical way. Whereas the rest of us are assuming he just is standard Surfer but is Worthy.

The two interpretations lead to VERY different debates.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
I am debating it.

Your central argument is that 'OP says he can hold it'

Then said OP said he could wield it. I don't see OP saying that.

In short, you are assuming he is using current (intangible) Surfer and is issuing mind commands, or holding it in a metaphysical way. Whereas the rest of us are assuming he just is standard Surfer but is Worthy.

The two interpretations lead to VERY different debates.

Ok fine I will play with you since I'm bored. Thread title says Silver Surfer with Mjolnir vs Thanos. Thread title (in case you forgot) is also in the op. Which also says Silver Surfer w MJ vs Dione. We use current versions on this site (as you well know) and current version of Norrin is intangible. I don't know how else to explain it to you unless I start pulling out puppets and graphs.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
The two interpretations lead to VERY different debates.

Agreed with Dark here.

Anyway, cdtm was drunk when he made this thread and he has no clue Surfer is any different now.

Still... OP's intentions don't matter as much as the rules do... and Bada clarified we're always supposed to use the current versions of characters, regardless of when the thread was made, unless the OP was clear about the incarnations.

We love to complicate everything on comic battleboards, don't we? 😂

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Ok fine I will play with you since I'm bored. Thread title says Silver Surfer with Mjolnir vs Thanos. Thread title (in case you forgot) is also in the op. Which also says Silver Surfer w MJ vs Dione. We use current versions on this site (as you well know) and current version of Norrin is intangible. I don't know how else to explain it to you unless I start pulling out puppets and graphs.

Cool. So no mention of him holding it. So he is using mental commands.

Current Thanos has the Regulator, right? When he took down the LT etc?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Agreed with Dark here.

Anyway, cdtm was drunk when he made this thread and he has no clue Surfer is any different now.

Still... OP's intentions don't matter as much as the rules do... and Bada clarified we're always supposed to use the current versions of characters, regardless of when the thread was made, unless the OP was clear about the incarnations.

We love to complicate everything on comic battleboards, don't we? 😂

👆 agreed, though rules also state we don't use amped/weakened versions of characters, especially if they are short-lived amps/weakening.

All I am saying, and no need to get snippy with me young lady, is that having these two Surfer versions lead to very different debates. You want to insist on the letter and the law of the board as your guiding principle, that's fine - but then Thanos arrives with his cosmic regulator.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not sure if serious. It's current surfer.. unless otherwise stated, which means he's intangible. OP said he could wield mjolnir so it's safe to assume it is either mind controlled or held in some metaphysical way.

Base Thanos IT, don't confuse his power ups feats with what he can do on his own. And Thane? That's your go to? Thane was a terrible PF user. He has shown multiple times to be weak-willed. He was manipulated since inception by , Ebony Maw, Avengers, Death, the Black Order. Find a better feat to debate.

Your point?

Intangibility is not all the same. Vision has dimensional density shifting, Kitty merges with the surrounding molecules, Flash vibrates his molecules..etc. countering one doesn't mean you can counter another.

The point 😂 stop acting like carver. The point is Surfer beating cancerverse minions is nothing as Surfer along with the annilators got wrecked by Lord marvell the sane guy Thanos owned.

We aren’t talking about kitty or flash so they mean nothing, surfer is no different vision. And as I’ve said Thanos has various feats or countering phasing/astral form/cellular attacks

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
Agreed with Dark here.

Anyway, cdtm was drunk when he made this thread and he has no clue Surfer is any different now.

Still... OP's intentions don't matter as much as the rules do... and Bada clarified we're always supposed to use the current versions of characters, regardless of when the thread was made, unless the OP was clear about the incarnations.

We love to complicate everything on comic battleboards, don't we? 😂

You speak for cd now?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Cool. So no mention of him holding it. So he is using mental commands.

Current Thanos has the Regulator, right? When he took down the LT etc?

👆 agreed, though rules also state we don't use amped/weakened versions of characters, especially if they are short-lived amps/weakening.

All I am saying, and no need to get snippy with me young lady, is that having these two Surfer versions lead to very different debates. You want to insist on the letter and the law of the board as your guiding principle, that's fine - but then Thanos arrives with his cosmic regulator.

Not snippy at all you're just using bs tactics instead of you know actually debating

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You speak for cd now?

I know him that well, yes.

And it's too late for him to interfere, anyway. We're almost on page 3. What happened, happened.

Unless he gets a mod to make an announcement here and edit the original post, that is.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You speak for cd now?

Not snippy at all you're just using bs tactics instead of you know actually debating

Not BS tactics. I am saying I have zero idea as to what the Surfer in this thread can do. You say you have an idea - because you want to use current Surfer 'coz rulez'. In THAT case, 'coz rulez', Thanos wields the cosmic regulator.

But based on 'standard' Surfer, i.e. tangible Surfer, with Mjolnir, and 'standard' Thanos, and then we can start debating (Thanos would win).

Originally posted by Insane Titan
That is base Thanos as proven countless times via scan, and this so called power up was never lost. He was shredding planets for fun using the power and had the power to reverse mistress Deaths curse on Thanos. Death herself backed down from Thane with the PF. No amount of lowballing on your part can take that away. Manipulation has nothing to do with his power output or power lvl, stop reaching because you don’t like the character.

The point 😂 stop acting like carver. The point is Surfer beating cancerverse minions is nothing as Surfer along with the annilators got wrecked by Lord marvell the sane guy Thanos owned.

We aren’t talking about kitty or flash so they mean nothing, surfer is no different vision. And as I’ve said Thanos has various feats or countering phasing/astral form/cellular attacks

Not lowballing. It's been proven time and again he's a scrub.

Stopped reading and skipped at Carver

You said phasing is phasing. Which it isn't. Unless you can prove Thanos can counter it, he can't.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I know him that well, yes.

And it's too late for him to interfere, anyway. We're almost on page 3. What happened, happened.

Unless he gets a mod to make an announcement here and edit the original post, that is.

No need. I'm interpreting it as written.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Not BS tactics. I am saying I have zero idea as to what the Surfer in this thread can do. You say you have an idea - because you want to use current Surfer 'coz rulez'. In THAT case, 'coz rulez', Thanos wields the cosmic regulator.

But based on 'standard' Surfer, i.e. tangible Surfer, with Mjolnir, and 'standard' Thanos, and then we can start debating (Thanos would win).

Cosmic regulator is standard equipment?

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Not lowballing. It's been proven time and again he's a scrub.

Stopped reading and skipped at Carver

You said phasing is phasing. Which it isn't. Unless you can prove Thanos can counter it, he can't.

No need. I'm interpreting it as written.

Cosmic regulator is standard equipment?

As standard as current Surfer's status.