Quicksilver vs. Domino

Started by DarkSaint854 pages

How did I misunderstand this scene, Sin?

And how would you explain that scan Carver?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How did I misunderstand this scene, Sin?

And how would you explain that scan Carver?

To counter this, examples of it just working when she's not in mortal danger are needed. Otherwise she wouldn't have mud down her cleavage.

Originally posted by Delta1938
To counter this, examples of it just working when she's not in mortal danger are needed. Otherwise she wouldn't have mud down her cleavage.

Which would be easy to do. She just leaves a club with Shang, and they find a luxury motorbike, with the keys in in, in central HK - not in mortal danger.

But my point was that relying as if she's untouchable - when in X-force#3 she's being flayed alive and has had her eye plucked out etc - is wrong.

After Shang trains her, she's able to use it effectively - but she needs to focus and she can be overwhelmed. When she attempts to focus, she can be hit. Her powers are tied to her emotions.

Just saying ' DS is wrong' etc, isn't actually debating.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Which would be easy to do. She just leaves a club with Shang, and they find a luxury motorbike, with the keys in in, in central HK - not in mortal danger.

But my point was that relying as if she's untouchable - when in X-force#3 she's being flayed alive and has had her eye plucked out etc - is wrong.

After Shang trains her, she's able to use it effectively - but she needs to focus and she can be overwhelmed. When she attempts to focus, she can be hit. Her powers are tied to her emotions.

Just saying ' DS is wrong' etc, isn't actually debating.

I guess the club thing happened? I was referring to the scan you posted about how her powers work when she's not focusing(which I'm guessing that happened before the Shang training).

Sin is just saying the scans are out of context without actually acknowledging the posts you made responding to it. While I expect carter to respond just as well not reading your posts as he would if he did.

The whole "luck powah equals auto-win" trend started with Longshot.

It's wrong af, imho.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The whole "luck powah equals auto-win" trend started with Longshot.

It's wrong af, imho.

I remember that being heavily used in Weapon H topics despite evidence showing even with Domino herself it wasn't as good as argued. But then it's common for less conventional powers to get No Limits Fallacy.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
How did I misunderstand this scene, Sin?

And how would you explain that scan Carver?

You took the about to die part and ran with it. It's not a life or death activated phenom. It's always on influencing outcomes.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
You took the about to die part and ran with it. It's not a life or death activated phenom. It's always on influencing outcomes.

Always on, but not always liking her.

The final outcome is that she would stay alive....but not necessarily in one piece.

Its final aim is less 'Domino wins' and more 'Domino stays alive'. In the same series, Shang takes her out without any issues.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Always on, but not always liking her.

The final outcome is that she would stay alive....but not necessarily in one piece.

Its final aim is less 'Domino wins' and more 'Domino stays alive'. In the same series, Shang takes her out without any issues.

Again you're not reading it correctly. It doesn't like her if she puts herself in danger foolishly, like the scene you keep posting. Then it makes her suffer.

BUT...Even that is not correct because the entire arc talks about how her powers affect the guy chasing her and every hit she should have taken, damage, yada yada yada..gets transferred to him.

๐Ÿ‘†. And now, after training with Shang?

Quicksilver would be able to transfer his speed to the third rail of a subway.
At his greatest he could come at Domino like a full throttle train.
Domino would need to be a brick.

The scans posted by DS are certainly no where near longshot level luck.

But the forums where I was told her luck powers were above his all spoke of how she can consciously control luck to deliver a consciously planned and wanted outcome. That is something longshot can certainly not do. Is she capable of this or was I missled

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
๐Ÿ‘†. And now, after training with Shang?

She trained with Shang because she was too reliant on her powers and she learned a modicum of self control not power control. That's it.

Originally posted by beatboks
The scans posted by DS are certainly no where near longshot level luck.

But the forums where I was told her luck powers were above his all spoke of how she can consciously control luck to deliver a consciously planned and wanted outcome. That is something longshot can certainly not do. Is she capable of this or was I missled

No she can't consciously control it.

Her powers work when she is not in mortal danger as well.

She can feel like a women. She can use her feeling to activate her power.

Originally posted by Wonder Man
She can feel like a women. She can use her feeling to activate her power.

๐Ÿ˜†

Quicksilver could lift what she throws at him but in the end the wages of sin is death.
Domino can cheat legally.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
She trained with Shang because she was too reliant on her powers and she learned a modicum of self control not power control. That's it.

No she can't consciously control it.

Fair enough, I still think QS wins here, and I still think you're wrong ๐Ÿ‘†

Domino could imprint Quicksilver like the merc she is.