Kal Kent vs Thor and OKT

Started by Diesldude11 pages

I’ll get to the combat vs perception after you have had time to digest my previous post.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
We literally said it wasn't a combat speed feat which Mrmind claimed it to be

LEARN how to read saint 😂

But it is.

If I can react and perceive on those timeframes, a punch or a kick from anyone/anything would be slow as hell to me.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But it is.

If I can react and perceive on those timeframes, a punch or a kick from anyone/anything would be slow as hell to me.

but can his body limbs react accordingly to his abilities to sense? its just like his abilitiy to calculate billion scenarios in seconds. its cerebral abilities but that doesnt mean his body can react at the same time. if that was the case, he wouldnt get his ass kicked all the time. if a person can think fast, it doesnt mean he can move his body fast.

Originally posted by Dareangel
but can his body limbs react accordingly to his abilities to sense? its just like his abilitiy to calculate billion scenarios in seconds. its cerebral abilities but that doesnt mean his body can react at the same time. if that was the case, he wouldnt get his ass kicked all the time. if a person can think fast, it doesnt mean he can move his body fast.

Remember that Kal also has TK, powerful enough to (with help) push a galaxy back, and super-ESP (which is advanced enough that he calls J'onn's TP 'an antique'😉. He even erases J'onn's memories of meeting him:

So he has powers and abilities which work at the speed of his mind. In short, on yoctosecond timescales

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Remember that Kal also has TK, powerful enough to (with help) push a galaxy back, and super-ESP (which is advanced enough that he calls J'onn's TP 'an antique'😉

So he has powers and abilities which work at the speed of his mind. In short, on yoctosecond timescales

he wasnt able to push a galaxy back. he couldnt handle a charging galaxy and only with the help of titano they were able to stop it.

he has telepathy and super ESP? yes. he can use those abilities really fast? yes. it doesnt matter if its nano seconds, yacoseconds or what ever seconds, i will agree that he can use those powers on his enemies before they reach him. question is, how powerful are those abilities and are they able to place him anywhere near the level people try to make him. his force vision coudlnt handle a galaxy. his force vision only with the help of green lantern was able to contain solaris. thats about it. those are his best feats. his best feats are not being good enough on his own to handle the situation.
dont get me wrong, i love DC and i love MARVEL. I am not taking sides in this DC VS MARVEL thing. but i just dont understand why people always claim that kal kent is so powerful, when in reality ultraman one shotted the guy. again, ULTRAMAN ONE SHOTTED HIM!!!

Not stipulating combat or percep speed, but sorta agree with Saint regarding the scan. If u take SM1Mil at his word, he was able to track Kosmos in yoctoseconds. That's what Kal is trying convey. Not sure if he was talking to himself or to someone.

kal wins easily

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
OKT was pretty boss by the end, I’d probably give him the majority. Kal doesn’t have enough appearances.

color me shocked

Originally posted by Dareangel
he wasnt able to push a galaxy back. he couldnt handle a charging galaxy and only with the help of titano they were able to stop it.

he has telepathy and super ESP? yes. he can use those abilities really fast? yes. it doesnt matter if its nano seconds, yacoseconds or what ever seconds, i will agree that he can use those powers on his enemies before they reach him. question is, how powerful are those abilities and are they able to place him anywhere near the level people try to make him. his force vision coudlnt handle a galaxy. his force vision only with the help of green lantern was able to contain solaris. thats about it. those are his best feats. his best feats are not being good enough on his own to handle the situation.
dont get me wrong, i love DC and i love MARVEL. I am not taking sides in this DC VS MARVEL thing. but i just dont understand why people always claim that kal kent is so powerful, when in reality ultraman one shotted the guy. again, ULTRAMAN ONE SHOTTED HIM!!!

Ah yes, but still, stopping a charging GALAXY - even with help - is still pretty damn high end TK, no? I mean...it's an entire galaxy, lol. Even if all he did was 1% of the work, and Titano did 99%....

And as I showed above, he mindwiped J'onn, who has some of the best TP feats in DC.

Plus, you know...he could be immune to magic.

kal wins.

dareangel is just a butthurt troll. always has been,👆

Originally posted by MrMind
kal wins easily

color me shocked

What’s the matter? You mad your attempt at a bait thread is a pretty good fight? 😆

thorbag triggered, not surprised, it's not like you read comics and your opinion matters but cool

kal stomps

I’m not the one who sits around trying to make Thor bait threads 23 hours a day.

MsMind, please... You get triggered over the smallest things. If u conti ue ull turn this into another flame thread.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
But it is.

If I can react and perceive on those timeframes, a punch or a kick from anyone/anything would be slow as hell to me.

No it isn't. PERCEPTION speed is NOT combat speed, stop it. Thor also tracked a ship moving at MFTL speeds

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
kal wins.

dareangel is just a butthurt troll. always has been,👆

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yep, kal has yoctosecond reaction speed, Light travels 2.9979x10^(-16) meters in one yoctosecond

he can literally rape OKT and Thor, throw asgard into sun, slaps Odin's head off, freeze breath surtur into popsicle, one shot the 9 realms

before team 2 realize their heads are on the floor

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No it isn't. PERCEPTION speed is NOT combat speed, stop it. Thor also tracked a ship moving at MFTL speeds

Perception speed is heavily tied to combat speed though. Unless of course when "skill" is played up and things like comic fu breaks that logical boundary.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
No it isn't. PERCEPTION speed is NOT combat speed, stop it. Thor also tracked a ship moving at MFTL speeds

You are still misunderstanding the scan.

Post Thor tracking a ship within the timespan of yoctoseconds, please. Your example is a completely different scenario.

Using Hulkster's analogy:

If I track a supersonic jet flying over head, that does NOT mean I have supersonic reflexes - I 10,000% agree with Hulkster and you on this.

HOWEVER, if I track a supersonic jet flying overhead in nanoseconds/picoseconds....then yes, I have supersonic (probably much much better, actually) reaction speeds.

It's the TIME taken to track objects, NOT the speed at which the objects travel, that matters.

👆
Thats what Kal is trying to convey

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You are still misunderstanding the scan.

Post Thor tracking a ship within the timespan of yoctoseconds, please. Your example is a completely different scenario.

Using Hulkster's analogy:

If I track a supersonic jet flying over head, that does NOT mean I have supersonic reflexes - I 10,000% agree with Hulkster and you on this.

HOWEVER, if I track a supersonic jet flying overhead in nanoseconds/picoseconds....then yes, I have supersonic (probably much much better, actually) reaction speeds.

It's the TIME taken to track objects, NOT the speed at which the objects travel, that matters.

👆

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You are still misunderstanding the scan.

Post Thor tracking a ship within the timespan of yoctoseconds, please. Your example is a completely different scenario.

Using Hulkster's analogy:

If I track a supersonic jet flying over head, that does NOT mean I have supersonic reflexes - I 10,000% agree with Hulkster and you on this.

HOWEVER, if I track a supersonic jet flying overhead in nanoseconds/picoseconds....then yes, I have supersonic (probably much much better, actually) reaction speeds.

It's the TIME taken to track objects, NOT the speed at which the objects travel, that matters.

None of that is relevant, it's a perception speed period.

surfer Can perceive billions of stars while traveling at light years speed, doesn't mean his combat speed is MFTL!!! now

Don't make me pull out the calc for it, a low end is MUCH faster than attoseconds