Kal Kent vs Thor and OKT

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
None of that is relevant, it's a perception speed period.

surfer Can perceive billions of stars while traveling at light years speed, doesn't mean his combat speed is MFTL!!! now

Don't make me pull out the calc for it, a low end is MUCH faster than attoseconds

Erm - your scan has two holes in it:

1. Surfer is ripping a portal to warp through
2. The scan literally says they can't track it - galaxies streak past them in a blur, and their minds don't even have a chance to fully comprehend the beauty.

Thirdly - it's not about the SPEED of the objects being tracked, it's about the TIME taken to track them.

Please try and understand what I am trying to say before simply dismissing it out of hand just because it disagrees with you.

When i tell you to read scans properly i mean it

Those are the main points of the billion star scan

The fact that he can perceive all of those while at that speed

Every change noted

Duh, of course Surfer folds space itself. That's why his speed feats are so amazing

Ok. Looking at it again, he does not actually track any particular speed movement. King Kosmos escapes him by going through a wormhole to the past. Using his S-D Vision, it takes Kal only nanoseconds to track Kosmos’ location and he goes to that location, surmising that minutes could have passed wherever King Kosmos went (apparently far more time than that had passed).

Even more so, this has absolutely nothing to do with combat or reflex speed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. Looking at it again, he does not actually track any particular speed movement. King Kosmos escapes him by going through a wormhole to the past. Using his S-D Vision, it takes Kal only nanoseconds to track Kosmos’ location and he goes to that location, surmising that minutes could have passed wherever King Kosmos went (apparently far more time than that had passed).

Even more so, this has absolutely nothing to do with combat or reflex speed.

It's a reaction feat. Saying his 5d vision tracked in yoctoseconds, is the same as saying he reacted within yoctoseconds to track him.

The scan makes it clear this is the speed it took him to track and focus on his target. It's a reaction feat.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
When i tell you to read scans properly i mean it

Those are the main points of the billion star scan

The fact that he can perceive all of those while at that speed

Every change noted

Erm...your original scan didn't show that lmao. This is what you posted:

Yes, I was gonna edit it, it's a different instance

Originally posted by TheHulkster
Ok. Looking at it again, he does not actually track any particular speed movement. King Kosmos escapes him by going through a wormhole to the past. Using his S-D Vision, it takes Kal only nanoseconds to track Kosmos’ location and he goes to that location, surmising that minutes could have passed wherever King Kosmos went (apparently far more time than that had passed).

Even more so, this has absolutely nothing to do with combat or reflex speed.

Yocto. Not nano.

Nano is 10 to the power -9. Yocto is to the power of -24.

And yes, it is a reaction feat. It took him that long to track Kosmos.

How dare DS not read a different scan that was not there properly.

Read things properly DS.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, I was gonna edit it, it's a different instance

So don't accuse people of not reading your scans. I mean it.

Note that it states light years transverse in seconds. Meaning more then one light year is done

He's traveling at light years while perceiving billions of stars at once

NOW go ahead and tell me Surfer has attosecond combat speed

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Yes, I was gonna edit it, it's a different instance

Come on Alberto, u better than that... 😛
K carry on.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Note that it states light years transverse in seconds. Meaning more then one light year is done

He's traveling at light years while perceiving billions of stars at once

NOW go ahead and tell me Surfer has attosecond combat speed

I don't think you understand just how fast attoseconds are.

Because it's waaaay faster then light speed x2. Much, MUCH faster.

the low calc I did for the feat is way faster than attoseconds

By all means, post the math.

Originally posted by DeadpoolXXX
kal wins.

dareangel is just a butthurt troll. always has been,👆

man shut yo ass up. got to love people who cant discuss something without making it personal. if you want to add something and show why am i wrong, go ahead. if not, then buzz off troll.

Originally posted by cdtm
It's a reaction feat. Saying his 5d vision tracked in yoctoseconds, is the same as saying he reacted within yoctoseconds to track him.

The scan makes it clear this is the speed it took him to track and focus on his target. It's a reaction feat.

Not in the least bit. It's purely a measure of the time it takes for him to see something which is purely a feat of perception. It right there along the lines of perceiving item moving fast, counting huge numbers in a whim, etc.

Reaction speed is the speed of your reaction.

First of all you need to note the circumference of a star then times that by 1 billion. Then note that number as around a second

Our sun since it's the smallest type of star

Surface area = 6.088 X 10^12 per square kilometre

Circumference - 2,713,406 miles aka 4,366,813 km

Radius - 695,700 km

So what weird looking at is a surface area of 6,088,000,000,000 or 6 trillion

That will be multiplied by the circumference. Then the radius. Then by 4 since the radius is only a quarter of the sun

Then the answer is multiplied by a billion

So your looking at this number

In a second. In kilometres

That's it in miles

So rounding it up would be 4.6 x 10^34

That number would look something like this

46,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 m/s

Or 46 nonillion m/s

That's lower end

The feat itself lasted mere seconds

If not a second. That is the lower end of the calculation excluding the different sizes of stars

And that's just 1 billion. Considering the fact that it states billions upon billions

I didn't even calc the distance between his line of sight and the potential placements of the stars

Now GO AHEAD and tell us that Surfer's faster than Superman in combat speed since perception translates to combat now

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Ah yes, but still, stopping a charging GALAXY - even with help - is still pretty damn high end TK, no? I mean...it's an entire galaxy, lol. Even if all he did was 1% of the work, and Titano did 99%....

And as I showed above, he mindwiped J'onn, who has some of the best TP feats in DC.

Plus, you know...he could be immune to magic.

yes its a good feat. but as far as combat feats, he really gets destroyed and easily. else man dominated him and made him fall with tears. literally. batman 1 million owned him in combat. ultraman one shotted him. i mean he has many exotic powers, but non of them seems to really work in a combat situation. he just gets owned left and right.