Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
It was Doom getting used to Surfer's power, you would know that if you read the comic 😆and It's CANON regardless of how old it is.
Moving the goal post I see. Or it's just more of your poor reading comprehension. I never said it being old made it non Canon, I was pointing out it's pathetic your argument implied I don't read comics because I didn't read a specific comic probably over 50 years old.
Or let me ask you directly. Why do you think I don't read comics? If you don't give a really good answer I'm reporting you.
And I don't give a **** if it was Doom learning Surfer's powers. I'm not impressed he did it to Thing when you're arguing it'll work on Superman as if it's a sure thing(no pun intended). Give me something better than that and I'll entertain this as a plausible tactic.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Moving the goal post I see. Or it's just more of your poor reading comprehension. I never said it being old made it non Canon, I was pointing out it's pathetic your argument implied I don't read comics because I didn't read a specific comic probably over 50 years old.Or let me ask you directly. Why do you think I don't read comics? If you don't give a really good answer I'm reporting you.
And I don't give a **** if it was Doom learning Surfer's powers. I'm not impressed he did it to Thing when you're arguing it'll work on Superman as if it's a sure thing(no pun intended). Give me something better than that and I'll entertain this as a plausible tactic.
LMAO YOU act as if I care about how you feel about the argument, it's a perfect option to finish Superman off seeing as Superman has shown zero resistance to that type of hax that Surfer can whip out. The point of a debate is to prove how the opponent loses, your feelings on it is completely irrelevant. If you can't show Superman resisting to an ability similar as to speed steal than Surfer wins. You got one time to show Supes resisting speed steal before I move on with my day, anything else is irrelevant. I don't do back n forth. far too irrelevant
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
LMAO YOU act as if I care about how you feel about the argument, it's a perfect option to finish Superman off seeing as Superman has shown zero resistance to that type of hax that Surfer can whip out. The point of a debate is to prove how the opponent loses, your feelings on it is completely irrelevant. If you can't show Superman resisting to an ability similar as to speed steal than Surfer wins. You got one time to show Supes resisting speed steal before I move on with my day, anything else is irrelevant. I don't do back n forth. far too irrelevant
So a wall of text to cover up you have nothing. Concessions accepted.
And I see you didn't answer why I allegedly don't read comics. Again, concessions accepted.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
😂 😂 It's always entertainment for me when people that don't read comics assume they don't know what your talking about. Surfer always had an ability similar to of speed steal for years.
Surfer's PC really is like a mini Cosmic Cube. With a little patience and some experience you can pretty much do anything with it.
Originally posted by zopzop
Nice find. Even if it is Doom doing it, it's nice to see the Power Cosmic is capable of the feat.Surfer's PC really is like a mini Cosmic Cube. With a little patience and some experience you can pretty much do anything with it.
exactly. but these dudes find some ways to argue just to argue like bunch of upset females. IT was done by Surfer's OWN power cosmic, Common sense tells you Surfer can casually do it thats why i laugh at these dudes whenever they try to give their input, idk how carver gets upset. they're hilarious 😂 😂
Originally posted by Delta1938
So a wall of text to cover up you have nothing. Concessions accepted.And I see you didn't answer why I allegedly don't read comics. Again, concessions accepted.
LMAO You don't read comics though, that's been noted for awhile now. Soon as you said "AlBErTO R u mAKiNG tHiNGs Up AgAIn" about Surfer speed steal I called you out on your lack of knowledge and proved you wrong. then you wanna save face with the "BrO ItS A DeCaDe OLd So WhaT!!! hurr durr"
Don't ever doubt my knowledge, ive been reading before you were in diapers child
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
exactly. but these dudes find some ways to argue just to argue like bunch of upset females. IT was done by Surfer's OWN power cosmic, Common sense tells you Surfer can casually do it thats why i laugh at these dudes whenever they try to give their input, idk how carver gets upset. they're hilarious 😂 😂
Anyway that's my two cents so feel free to listen or ignore at your discretion, I was simply trying to set you on a course where others would need to raise an argument beyond "Surfer won't do that". Even if Pr hadn't stepped in to say that feats can't be transferred, you're argument wasn't going to go anywhere because the guy in the scan is Dr. Doom and most people figure that Doom's one of those guys who can probably use someone else's powers more efficiently than they can themselves. Hell I posted that scan in Surfer's respect thread myself a long time ago, but I never bothered trying to push it with any seriousness because I knew it wouldn't fly in debates here on KMC.
Originally posted by darthgoober
The thing is, Surfer's shown how he likes to "freeze" people during battle and it's not via actual speed steal, he mostly does something like encase his opponent in solidified cosmic energy. Honestly, pretty much everything is possible with Surfer's powers and a solid case can certainly be made for a speed steal to be included via logic and common sense, but at the end of the day he doesn't think like Doom and strait up lacks both Doom's raw intelligence and cunning. Despite his centuries of experience with his power, he's still specifically coming up with new ways of using the Power Cosmic for the first time fairly frequently so it's not like he's got it all mastered and as of yet his go to "immobilization tactic" is the solid energy thing. That'll be an easier case for you to make from an "in character" perspective. Honestly I doubt it would net him the win against Supes in a forum fight because he tends to use it against people who aren't actually a threat to him(keeps them from hurting themselves trying to attack him I guess) so it doesn't have many impressive victims, but if he charges the whole thing with energy like he did against Galactus, it could probably give Supes some real trouble.Anyway that's my two cents so feel free to listen or ignore at your discretion, I was simply trying to set you on a course where others would need to raise an argument beyond "Surfer won't do that". Even if Pr hadn't stepped in to say that feats can't be transferred, you're argument wasn't going to go anywhere because the guy in the scan is Dr. Doom and most people figure that Doom's one of those guys who can probably use someone else's powers more efficiently than they can themselves. Hell I posted that scan in Surfer's respect thread myself a long time ago, but I never bothered trying to push it with any seriousness because I knew it wouldn't fly in debates here on KMC.
Good post
Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman oneshots Surfer at this point.
FORUM Surfer using weakness exploit is a different story.
