Coronavirus

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Originally posted by Surtur
Watch this video of nurses dancing with a dead "body" lol:

https://twitter.com/realjuliasong/status/1255619980646912000

Look I don't think it is a real body it looks like it is someone wearing scrubs so probably another and I know the meme they are trying to replicate, but holy shit optics.

Yeah that might be the single fastest way to destroy the good will given to healthcare workers.

As one of the replies says...6 people and not one of them stopped to think this might be a bad idea.

This could easily go in the COVIDiots thread.

I'm hoping somehow it turns out to be fake.

Washington state’s ‘Green River Killer,’ other inmates denied coronavirus release in 5-4 vote

In a very stupid and frustrating turn of events, WHO now says Sweden's approach should be the model for situations like these.

The country that didn't lockdown and was mocked and criticized for their supposedly "dangerous" policy.

FFS, all the lives ruined and will be lost from economic ruin just for the WHO to walk back their position like this.

Dr. Mike Ryan, Executive Director, WHO's "Health Emergencies Programme":

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-who-emergency-expert-20200430-rsa3s3lm6bfk3fjofw3oezzrxu-story.html

How DO these virus's still exist anyways?

I mean, think about it. A virus can't survive outside of a host body. Disease generally kills the host, meaning they should have godawful evolutionary strategies.

Yet they're all over the place, and we aren't extinct yet. You'd think if we practiced good hygiene practices and actively steralized everything, we can drive most diseases into extinction.

Reuters wrote an interesting article on Coronavirus and Prisons:

As mass coronavirus testing expands in prisons, large numbers of inmates are showing no symptoms. In four state prison systems — Arkansas, North Carolina, Ohio and Virginia — 96% of 3,277 inmates who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic, according to interviews with officials and records reviewed by Reuters. That’s out of 4,693 tests that included results on symptoms.

But there's also this:

In Michigan, state authorities said “a good number” of the 620 prisoners who tested positive for the coronavirus were asymptomatic.

California’s state prison system would not release counts of asymptomatic prisoners.

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Reuters surveyed all 50 state prison systems. Of the 30 that responded, most are only testing inmates who show symptoms, suggesting they could be vastly undercounting the number infected by the coronavirus.

Florida and Texas, whose inmate populations are bigger than Ohio’s, report a combined total of just 931 cases — far fewer than the 3,837 inmates who tested positive in Ohio. New York, the epicenter of the U.S. outbreak, has reported 269 positive cases among 51,000 inmates. All three states are testing only symptomatic prisoners.

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After a recent spike in cases at the Neuse Correctional Institution in Goldsboro, North Carolina, state correctional officials tested all 723 prisoners last week. Of the 444 who were infected by the virus, 98% were asymptomatic, the state’s department of public safety said. One inmate has died at the prison.

Similarly, mass testing at two Arkansas prisons — the Cummins Unit in the city of Grady and the Community Correction Center in the state capital Little Rock — found 751 infected inmates, almost all of them asymptomatic, the state corrections department said. It did not provide the total number of inmates who were tested.

Arkansas’ prisons have faced contagious disease outbreaks before, such as scabies and chickenpox, but those episodes were easier to manage because inmates showed overt symptoms, said Arkansas Department of Corrections spokeswoman Dina Tyler. “But with this virus, you have no idea because so many are asymptomatic. It makes it very challenging to contain,” she said.

Michigan’s Lakeland Correctional Facility houses some of the state’s oldest and most medically frail prisoners. When coronavirus cases surged, the prison saw a spike in infections and deaths. As of April 23, nine Lakeland inmates had died from COVID-19, accounting for a third of the deaths across Michigan’s 29 state prisons.

Nearly half of Lakeland’s 1,400 prisoners suffer from chronic underlying health conditions, according to state data. Many are in wheelchairs, and the minimum-security facility in southern Michigan has its own geriatric unit for its large elderly population.

On Tuesday, the prison tested all 400 inmates in the geriatric ward and plans to test the rest of the facility by the end of the week. Of the 971 tested so far, 642, or about 66%, were positive. A state official declined to disclose how many were asymptomatic.

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In the seven state prison systems conducting mass tests, 49 inmates have died.

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“They’re worse than landlocked cruise ships,” Stern, the corrections expert, said, referring to stranded cruise ships that have been overwhelmed by coronavirus infections.

This is very interesting stuff. So if prisons have far more cases but far fewer deaths, even the geriatric medical prisons, why do we have so many dying, as a percent of the positive cases, in NY and NJ?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-prisons-testing-in/in-four-u-s-state-prisons-nearly-3300-inmates-test-positive-for-coronavirus-96-without-symptoms-idUSKCN2270RX

Seven high-risk sex offenders — 'the most dangerous kind of criminal' — released early in California over coronavirus

One of these guys has already been arrested again.

Lol, who wants to guess what for?

Insider trading?

Well he did trade freedom for imprisonment again.

Lol.

Originally posted by StyleTime
Insider trading?

Close.

Inside her raping.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Reuters wrote an interesting article on Coronavirus and Prisons:

But there's also this:

This is very interesting stuff. So if prisons have far more cases but far fewer deaths, even the geriatric medical prisons, why do we have so many dying, as a percent of the positive cases, in NY and NJ?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-prisons-testing-in/in-four-u-s-state-prisons-nearly-3300-inmates-test-positive-for-coronavirus-96-without-symptoms-idUSKCN2270RX

How do we even know these aren't false positives?

Medicine usually takes years of careful testing to weed out problems. There's no way the current testing kits have been properly vetted.

For all we know they don't work at all, and the numbers are being pulled out of the air.

Lancet study

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Lancet study

Interesting. So in at least one study, Remdesivir had no clinical significance in regardes to COVID-19.

This is supposed to be the drug that caused the Gilead researcher to do a terrible study on the VA in regards to HCQ.

Here's what I posted on this drug in the past for those who want a refresher:

Originally posted by dadudemon
Woah! No way!

So the tin-foil hat people were right?

Check it out: on the original HCQ Veterans study, many pointed out the conflict of interest between the researchers and Remdesivir. Researchers on that study also worked for Gilead and Gilead was working on a new drug that would compete with HCQ+Zinc.

They didn't document this conflict of interest in their study in their declarations but some folks caught it and it was brought up in the news.

France's researchers ripped their study to pieces without having to put on the tinfoil hat to talk about them purposefully sabotaging their work to get a certain result.

But it was a retrospective study where they just looked at charts. It was highly uncontrolled and the "HCQ" group did not get consistent dosing, no comparative to the control group, the test group was almost all already intubated and about to die, etc. Lots of problems.

So here come the tinfoil hat people. They said it is because Fauci has a backdoor deal with Gilead to make Remdesivir work. So they put together a super shitty restrospective review, called it a study, and broadcast it to all the major news networks to try and tank the use of it. If it tanks, it removes a major competitor to Remdesivir. If they had similar or even if Remdesivir had a lower theraputic effect, it would stand to lose tens of millions to hundreds of millions HCQ+Zinc was effective and being used. So the best option was destroy that drug as a possible option as part of a "hearts and minds" campaign so doctors and media outlets pick up on Remdesivir when their results start coming in.

The conspiracy theorists were talking about this greater than 2 weeks ago. That Fauci will come in and talk up Remdesivir's results as being incredible and amazing. Then the media will pick it up as a miracle drug. Then HCQ+Zinc will fall by the wayside.

This.Is.Incredible.

My perspective is 'why not both'? Just use any and all drugs necessary to make success happen.

Originally posted by dadudemon
That's not correct. Trump brought it up on March 19th, from what I can see.

Research into using Hydroxychloroquine, or chloroquine, for COVID-19 started long before Trump thought it was a good idea. Clearly, he got the idea, elsewhere.

For example, this trial was posted March 13th:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04307693?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=3&rank=109

And Trump also mentioned Remdesivir in that same briefing on the 19th where trials for that were posted March 3rd:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04292899?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=3&rank=116

And here is another from Feb 27th which included chloroquine:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04286503?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=3&rank=154

Same as above except Feb 21st:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04280705?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=4&rank=279

Here is another for Remdesivir for February 6th:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04257656?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=4&rank=210

And to finally bring this discussion to a close, the earliest research entry I can find for this is February 7, 2020. This research completed February 25th.

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04261517?cond=SARS-CoV-2&draw=5&rank=321

I don't want to make it seem like there is magic what I'm doing so here is the search criteria I used to find this research:

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/results?cond=SARS-CoV-2&term=&cntry=&state=&city=&dist=

Are we able to move on from Trump just randomly thinking Hydroxychloroquine and Remdesivir are miracle drugs and, instead, give the credit to the researchers. Trump isn't gambling, he's probably being fed this information by his advisers.

I don't know about you, but I'm so sick of masks I gave up trying to keep on effective ones. I used a skullcap as a mask the other day.

The store policies (And supposedly state law, though I'm pretty sure states can't arrest people for not wearing masks) only say to wear a mask. They don't say they need to be good masks.

Take today, I just pulled a used mask out of my glove compartment that was sitting around for 4 days.

No idea how "hygenic" this is.

So if it turns out this did leak from a lab in China what do the Trump blamers here feel should be done? Anyone can feel free to weigh in on this, but I am especially curious how those who incorrectly feel Trump has blood on his hands would feel.

And keep in mind 99% of people talking about this are not saying China created a bio weapon in some lab. What is usually said is they were merely studying the virus and f*cked up and it accidentally got out.

Majority of US intelligence agencies believe COVID-19 originated in Wuhan lab

Again they are not saying this was done intentionally.

Originally posted by Surtur
Majority of US intelligence agencies believe COVID-19 originated in Wuhan lab

Again they are not saying this was done intentionally.

I was reading a news story about how NBC spread fake news about what Trump had said regarding this and they refused to retract their story after people posted the video of what Trump actually said.

Originally posted by dadudemon
I was reading a news story about how NBC spread fake news about what Trump had said regarding this and they refused to retract their story after people posted the video of what Trump actually said.

Got a link?!