Coronavirus

Originally posted by Robtard
I'm generally a healthy person. I eat fairly well, I exercise regularly, I go out of my way to eat fresh vegetables and fruit and drink water regularly. While that's just good practice, that won't make me immune to influenza or covid.

Sorry to hear about your loss, but I question whether the vaccine did that. Millions upon million of people getting the vaccine and they're fine aside from maybe mild symptoms that usually go away after 24-48 hours.

But there is a very small percentage of the population that will have allergic or adverse reactions to any given vaccine, just odd you had two in your circle of people.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7919571/

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7919571/

Originally posted by Blakemore
That's just biased leftist propoganda and it's way to long and complicated. Shame you're such a deluded sheep that you won't post simple tweets by legitimately smart people who watch infowars and play video games evn though they hold much more merit because they never went into higher education. 🙄 I mean, why spend all that money on learning a scientific lexicon when you can just buy brainforce? ❌

^^this really needs more commas

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
or he died from a breakthrough infection, which we already know is a possibility.

however good job to all the conspiracy "theorists" for shutting down all those imaginary strawmen who keep insisting that the vaccine is 100% effective. lousy stupid strawmen

Just like lead.and tobacco was 100% safe. 👆

"Totally safe and effective" lol.

"Fauci and Bill Gates says so!"

Yeah, it's not like we have Bil Gates on video telling an audience of hundreds of people that we need to reduce population of planet and that vaccines and abortions would help with that greatly, amirite? 🙄

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
^^this really needs more commas

Originally posted by cdtm
Just like lead.and tobacco was 100% safe. 👆

You got the vaccine because you didn't want to risk your health, now that you've lowered your own risk factors, you downplay vaccinations. Deplorable.

Back in May:

Originally posted by cdtm
Yessss...

That also works the other way, though.

My sister refuses to vaccinate, no matter how many times I tell her there's nothing to it. All I can do is hope she never runs into the other unvaccinated person in town, and catches it from them.

Originally posted by Robtard
You got the vaccine because you didn't want to risk your health, now that you've lowered your own risk factors, you downplay vaccinations. Deplorable.

Back in May:

I took a leap of faith, as did you.

Realistically there is no way in hfil these vaccines are held to the same rigourous standards as pre-pandemic drugs. It simply isn't possible to compare pharmaceuticals vetted over ten years to something rolled out in a fraction of that time.

Who knows what the effects will be in a decade or two? We are effectively all lab rats at this point.

No, neither of us took a "leap of faith", this isn't religion, it's science, there's a virus and there's a vaccine, we took it because it's logical and backed by science.

It's called advancements in science ans technology built upon compounded knowledge, why things take less time now than they did 10, 20, 30, 100+ years ago. You will also get your booster when you can.

Now that you're safe(r) and immunized, you try and deter others from what you happily benefited from. Honestly, deplorable.

history will view trumpism as a biologically hazardous suicide cult.

Originally posted by Robtard
No, neither of us took a "leap of faith", this isn't religion, it's science, there's a virus and there's a vaccine, we took it because it's logical and backed by science.

It's called advancements in science ans technology built upon compounded knowledge, why things take less time now than they did 10, 20, 30, 100+ years ago. You will also get your booster when you can.

Now that you're safe(r) and immunized, you try and deter others from what you happily benefited from. Honestly, deplorable.

Eh?

What amount of advancements can make up for the fact no one has had the vaccine for ten years yet.

This is just common sense, there is no way to test long term effects of mRNA vaccines. These vaccines are new technology.

You're not talking about science at all. Unless you have access to science several decades into the future.

Originally posted by Robtard
So I did what you asked, I found this: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions, which lead me to this:
[list]
Conclusion:

[*]Vaccines are the best way to protect people from COVID-19 and have already saved thousands of lives. Everyone should continue to get their vaccination when asked to do so unless specifically advised otherwise.

[*]As with all vaccines and medicines, the safety of COVID-19 vaccines is being continuously monitored.

[*]Cases of an extremely rare specific type of blood clot with low blood platelets continue to be investigated.[/list]

Not sure where the confirmed deaths due to vaccines are in that site???

We have a similar tracking method of people vaccinated and reactions: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/adverse-events.html

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine-adverse-reactions

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
Do you know the difference between an adverse event and a side effect?

Originally posted by Insane Titan
yeah , adverse reactions such as heart attack, stroke, seizures , liver and kidney failure. Which are named on each document in the link I posted from the gov website. All you need to do is open each folder and look. The Pfizer one alone is 100 pages long of adverse reactions.

In other words, you do not. If you did, you would know that car accidents count as adverse events. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance.

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
In other words, you do not. If you did, you would know that car accidents count as adverse events. Thank you for demonstrating your ignorance.

The vaccine doesn't stop you catching covid and doesn't stop you passing it on. So what is the point of it and why are us unvaccinated such a threat? All i hear people saying is that it lessons the symptoms but where is the science to back this up?

Look at Israel. Over 80% double jabbed and over 60% of those in hospital are double jabbed. The vaccine just doesn't work. In fact, the more people vaccinated the more the cases are rising .

I tested positive in September and i lost all my taste and smell. But i recovered in 5 days, no vaccine needed. I would liken the symtoms to that of the flu.

I think if you are very old and have serious underlying health issues then by all means get the jab but i think to push it on everyone else is just absurd.

Look at it logicaslly....what do i have more chance of dying of? Covid or an adverse reaction to the vaccine? Its an easy answer. Just let your IMMUNE SYSTEM do its job man. Stop pumping your body with experimental shite.

One thing i do know for sure is that we are all slowly but surelylosing our freedoms and rights, and thats something i was warning you all about 15 years ago!

Originally posted by cdtm
I took a leap of faith, as did you.

Realistically there is no way in hfil these vaccines are held to the same rigourous standards as pre-pandemic drugs. It simply isn't possible to compare pharmaceuticals vetted over ten years to something rolled out in a fraction of that time.

Who knows what the effects will be in a decade or two? We are effectively all lab rats at this point.

Originally posted by Deano
The vaccine doesn't stop you catching covid and doesn't stop you passing it on. So what is the point of it and why are us unvaccinated such a threat? All i hear people saying is that it lessons the symptoms but where is the science to back this up?

Look at Israel. Over 80% double jabbed and over 60% of those in hospital are double jabbed. The vaccine just doesn't work. In fact, the more people vaccinated the more the cases are rising .

I tested positive in September and i lost all my taste and smell. But i recovered in 5 days, no vaccine needed. I would liken the symtoms to that of the flu.

I think if you are very old and have serious underlying health issues then by all means get the jab but i think to push it on everyone else is just absurd.

Look at it logicaslly....what do i have more chance of dying of? Covid or an adverse reaction to the vaccine? Its an easy answer. Just let your IMMUNE SYSTEM do its job man. Stop pumping your body with experimental shite.

One thing i do know for sure is that we are all slowly but surelylosing our freedoms and rights, and thats something i was warning you all about 15 years ago!

Completely and utterly false.

In the UK our infection rate is massively higher than at the peak of our 3rd wave yet we still only have about 1/9 of the daily death count that we had then.

That massively lower death count is obviously only due to the vaccine.

And before you say "oh but why are cases so much higher", that's also obvious - we don't have restrictions or lockdowns anymore.

Originally posted by cdtm
Eh?

What amount of advancements can make up for the fact [b]no one has had the vaccine for ten years yet.

This is just common sense, there is no way to test long term effects of mRNA vaccines. These vaccines are new technology.

You're not talking about science at all. Unless you have access to science several decades into the future. [/B]

Would rather take my chances with possible long term effects of the vaccine (made by medical experts), than those potentially caused by Covid.

Also funny we all started buying mobile phones before long term effects of carrying those everywhere were tested for 10 years. Yet people seem to be more worried about a vaccine made by medical experts.