Coronavirus

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The quote was from the Israel study in your link.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Funny how the 1.56% is laughably low and nothing to concern ourselves with. But the 0.000003% is some kind of new world order conspiracy to mass murder.

These evil masterminds who want to cull the human race are really bad at killing people.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
The Isreal study says nothing like that tbh.

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital.

Can you post this study as Robturd is too scared. [/B]

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
The quote was from the Israel study in your link.

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Yes. That's what your study said. Specifically that people who had natural immunity and 1 vaccine dose had additional protection against the Delta variant. Studies are beginning to show that having both is the best defence because they have different strengths.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
Yes. That's what your study said. Specifically that people who had natural immunity and 1 vaccine dose had additional protection against the Delta variant. Studies are beginning to show that having both is the best defence because they have different strengths.

Let’s see those studies.

I'll try to find them again later as I'm about to head out.

I'll say this. I don't see why it's a big surprise to anyone that immunity to the Delta variant is better from previously having caught the Delta variant than from a vaccine that was developed and deployed before the Delta variant even existed. It's like being surprised that having 1 variant of the common cold doesn't give you protection from another variant of the common cold.

I'd like to think that the vaccine manufacturers are continually looking to modify the vaccines to better combat emerging variants (,another one was briefly mentioned on the news today)

Here's your variant, teach him all those x wing secrets worth more than the irl dueteronomy tycoon empire

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Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll try to find them again later as I'm about to head out.

I'll say this. I don't see why it's a big surprise to anyone that immunity to the Delta variant is better from previously having caught the Delta variant than from a vaccine that was developed and deployed before the Delta variant even existed. It's like being surprised that having 1 variant of the common cold doesn't give you protection from another variant of the common cold.

I'd like to think that the vaccine manufacturers are continually looking to modify the vaccines to better combat emerging variants (,another one was briefly mentioned on the news today)

Do these studies give figures like the Isreal study ie 6-13 times stronger etc?

Weird, cos when I told you the same thing, you angrily attacked and dismissed it:

Originally posted by Robtard
Studies show that natural antibodies after contacting covid combined with the antibodies created after vaccination have an even higher level of protecting someone from re-infection, which can happen. Jaden posted a study awhile back in here.

So really, it's still the smart people who are getting vaccinated.

Originally posted by Insane Titan
haha the Isreal study of 2.5 million people blows that bullshit to pieces. 90% the people are double jabbed whilst a third of that have had a booster and natural immunity came back 6-13 times stronger.

Originally posted by Robtard
Weird, cos when I told you the same thing, you angrily attacked and dismissed it:

False.

Also, what I said is also found in the Israel study you keep referring too. Did you not actually read it?

Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger
protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the
Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced
immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and
given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.

Israel Study: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

Should also be noted that this study hasn't been peer reviewed yet.

Originally posted by Robtard
False.

Also, what I said is also found in the Israel study you keep referring too. Did you not read it?

Conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger
protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the
Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced
immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and

given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta

variant.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf

Yeah naturally immunity is better that 2 shots by 6-13 times. No figure is given combined. If you have combined figures let’s see them.

Originally posted by jaden_2.0
I'll try to find them again later as I'm about to head out.

"The natural immune protection that develops after a SARS-CoV-2 infection offers considerably more of a shield against the Delta variant of the pandemic coronavirus than two doses of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, according to a large Israeli study that some scientists wish came with a “Don’t try this at home” label. The newly released data show people who once had a SARS-CoV-2 infection were much less likely than never-infected, vaccinated people to get Delta, develop symptoms from it, or become hospitalized with serious COVID-19."

"The study demonstrates the power of the human immune system, but infectious disease experts emphasized that this vaccine and others for COVID-19 nonetheless remain highly protective against severe disease and death. And they caution that intentional infection among unvaccinated people would be extremely risky."

"The researchers also found that people who had SARS-CoV-2 previously and received one dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech messenger RNA (mRNA) vaccine were more highly protected against reinfection than those who once had the virus and were still unvaccinated."

"The study, conducted in one of the most highly COVID-19–vaccinated countries in the world, examined medical records of tens of thousands of Israelis, charting their infections, symptoms, and hospitalizations between 1 June and 14 August, when the Delta variant predominated in Israel. It’s the largest real-world observational study so far to compare natural and vaccine-induced immunity to SARS-CoV-2, according to its leaders."

"The research impresses Nussenzweig and other scientists who have reviewed a preprint of the results, posted yesterday on medRxiv. “It’s a textbook example of how natural immunity is really better than vaccination,” says Charlotte Thålin, a physician and immunology researcher at Danderyd Hospital and the Karolinska Institute who studies the immune responses to SARS-CoV-2. “To my knowledge, it’s the first time [this] has really been shown in the context of COVID-19.”

"Still, Thålin and other researchers stress that deliberate infection among unvaccinated people would put them at significant risk of severe disease and death, or the lingering, significant symptoms of what has been dubbed Long Covid. The study shows the benefits of natural immunity, but “doesn’t take into account what this virus does to the body to get to that point,” says Marion Pepper, an immunologist at the University of Washington, Seattle. COVID-19 has already killed more than 4 million people worldwide and there are concerns that Delta and other SARS-CoV-2 variants are deadlier than the original virus."

https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital

Originally posted by Insane Titan
No true , because if it was false you what have backed it up by now claiming what I said.

Yeah naturally immunity is better that 2 shots by 6-13 times. No figure is given combined. If you have combined figures let’s see them.

This silly assgrabbery back and forth has grown boring. Anyhow.

Now that the study which you based your reasons for not getting a vaccine clearly states that natural immunity combined with a vaccine offers the best overall protection, will you be getting vaccinated? After all, the Israel study says it.

Originally posted by Robtard
This silly assgrabbery back and forth has grown boring. Anyhow.

Now that the study which you based your reasons for not getting a vaccine clearly states that natural immunity combined with a vaccine offers the best overall protection, will you be getting vaccinated? After all, the Israel study says it.

Yes, and Israel is a completely trustworthy country who has never lied about anything, kidnapped anyone, nor commited countless war crimes against.

And they certainly aren't part of an illuminati world conspiracy that wants to control the world.

We are on the same side for once Rob. 👆

Took a while to find as it was buried quite a bit in the search on Google but this was one of the studies I read last week

Will try and find the other that went more into combined immunity

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(21)00407-0/fulltext

Upon natural infection, the T-cell-mediated response appears to be targeted across a larger variety of epitopes than the humoral response, and hence might be more durable to genetic changes in key immunogenic viral epitopes. Nonetheless, the neutralising antibody response also comprises a key aspect of protection against reinfection. Coordination between the two types of adaptive immune response is likely to be important to mitigate the most severe consequences of infection.

Compared with the immune response to natural infection, vaccination elicits a response of greater magnitude and higher specificity, largely focused on the RBD. Increasing evidence of reduced neutralisation and vaccine effectiveness against emerging variants, alongside emerging data on breakthrough infections, suggests that vaccines will need to be updated in the short-to-medium term.

Another braindead parent

https://vernoncoleman.org/videos/syringe-full-death

Good read

These are the numbskulls who wear their masks (going out of their way to purchase and wear pretty coloured ones, and genuinely thinking they look good in them) and they are the half-wits who queue up to have an experimental jab which they don’t need and which won’t do what they think it will do.

If you’re not a fan of Victorian vocabulary, by the way, the more modern word `dickhead’ will do just as well as any of those I used earlier.

The bottom line is that anyone who wears a mask and has one of the covid jabs needs locking up for their own protection.

Originally posted by Robtard
This silly assgrabbery back and forth has grown boring. Anyhow.

Now that the study which you based your reasons for not getting a vaccine clearly states that natural immunity combined with a vaccine offers the best overall protection, will you be getting vaccinated? After all, the Israel study says it.

Hes brain dead.

Let the moron stay unvaccinated.

Hopefully he takes his pal Tommy Robinson with him.

My dad got blood clots about 2 weeks ago, but was fine after 3 days. He's also had the vaccines and a booster. He's 69.

This, I guess, could be an adverse event or an adverse reaction. Yet, he's still alive.

Great conspiracy NWO, you couldn't even kill an obese pensioner with your vaccines.

Non-vaccinated people get COVID very commonly and are injected when they are rushed to hospital, like Trump and Joe Rogan. So technically, they're now vaccinated. I guess it helps when you have money to get the vaccine when your life is at stake.