Originally posted by h1a8
No, you created a strawman (Ozy doesn't fight at bullet speed) when that wasn't my argument at all.
We both used a form of "he doesn't fight that way" argument. That being said, this is a general question, meant to apply to future debates, not past ones.
Yes or no.
Is "they don't fight that way" a valid argument.
Originally posted by Silent Master
We both used a form of "he doesn't fight that way" argument. That being said, this is a general question, meant to apply to future debates, not past ones.Yes or no.
Is "they don't fight that way" a valid argument.
If it can be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is out of character (barring CIS) for a character to perform actions that is within their capacity AND it is relevant to the debate then, yes, it is a valid argument.
Be careful, "yes" is the answer only under these stipulations. Otherwise, the answer is "no".
For example, your argument that Ozy does not fight that way is irrelevant due to it not addressing that argument that is on the table.
Originally posted by FrothByte
Just pointing out that we don't debate with an argument that isn't supported by feats.
Who is "we"?
This is because different members have debated all types of different ways.
With that said, your statement is irrelevant as no one in this thread does that. You might as well state that people breath air to survive.
Originally posted by h1a8
If it can be proven, beyond a reasonable doubt, that it is out of character (barring CIS) for a character to perform actions that is within their capacity AND it is relevant to the debate then, yes, it is a valid argument.Be careful, "yes" is the answer only under these stipulations. Otherwise, the answer is "no".
For example, your argument that Ozy does not fight that way is irrelevant due to it not addressing that argument that is on the table.
So, when you used that argument against Nib. what proof did you provide that using that tactic was out of character?
Originally posted by h1a8
I prefer you to make your point without the questions (since you are known to twist answers).
My point is that you didn't provide any proof that Nib's argument would be OOC for Cap, IOW, your standards only seem to apply to other people.
If I'm wrong, feel free to provide the proof you used to prove Nib was using an OOC tactic for Cap.
Originally posted by Silent Master
My point is that you didn't provide any proof that Nib's argument would be OOC for Cap, IOW, your standards only seem to apply to other people.If I'm wrong, feel free to provide the proof you used to prove Nib was using an OOC tactic for Cap.
I didn't?
1. The burden is for Nib to prove his case.
2. I stated that EVERY time Cap fought someone he didn't tackle them (whether he never thought about it or its not his style) and take them to the ground. Rather, he punched and kicked, etc. This is with weaker opponents, equal opponents, and superior opponents.
Tell you what, h1. I’ll prove my Ozy vs Cap logic claim in a BZ. 6 month ban to the loser. 1 post, 1 closing. Because I know I can prove it. I will argue that my logic (the one I posted prior to the topic being closed) is true, you will argue that it isn’t.
Refuse and I’ll assume that it’s just another of your troll/baiting and I’ll not waste any effort on a troll.
Regarding this match, it will be extremely long I think. Hela doesn't have the ability to redirect Ares' lightning which is what killed him and Ares doesn't have the ability to destroy Asgard to kill Hela.
I do think Hela gets the better out of Ares though, as Ares is neither as strong, as skilled or as quick on the draw as Hela.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Tell you what, h1. I’ll prove my Ozy vs Cap logic claim in a BZ. 6 month ban to the loser. 1 post, 1 closing. Because I know I can prove it. I will argue that my logic (the one I posted prior to the topic being closed) is true, you will argue that it isn’t.Refuse and I’ll assume that it’s just another of your troll/baiting and I’ll not waste any effort on a troll.
I refuse. Assume what you like.
Originally posted by NibedicusWhat is your logic?
Tell you what, h1. I’ll prove my Ozy vs Cap logic claim in a BZ. 6 month ban to the loser. 1 post, 1 closing. Because I know I can prove it. I will argue that my logic (the one I posted prior to the topic being closed) is true, you will argue that it isn’t.Refuse and I’ll assume that it’s just another of your troll/baiting and I’ll not waste any effort on a troll.
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, it was you listing your opinion. as I can name at least two fights where Cap does use the type of tactics Nib was talking about.You have a bad habit of confusing your opinion with facts.
False statements aren't opinions. You need to go back to grammar school and relearn "opinion".
Sure go ahead and list 2 times Cap tackled someone, got them to the ground, and fought them on the ground.