Originally posted by h1a8
You need to relearn what telling "lie" is.
Hint: It's not a false statement.Also, my statement isnt false unless you can prove it to be.
Easily done, He grappled with his younger self during their fight in Endgame and he slammed Red Skull into the flight chair in his first movie. done.
So, were you mistaken or did you lie?
Originally posted by h1a8
Unofficial (or official) Tiers are meaningless in determining who wins a fight.Lower tiers can beat higher tiers with the right powerset and skill.
Hela was slaying thousands of Valkyries, who have similar stats to WW.
Ares was killed by a lightning, whereas Hela is immune to Thor's most powerful lightning.
Hela>>>Ares.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
Hela was slaying thousands of Valkyries, who have similar stats to WW.Ares was killed by a lightning, whereas Hela is immune to Thor's most powerful lightning.
Hela>>>Ares.
Originally posted by h1a8
Irrelevant. Hela could have killed zillions of powerful beings while Ares killed by a paperclip and Ares can still win.
What the hell are you talking about now?
MCU Valkyrie is as good as Diana.
Thor's Lightning》》》》》》》Diana. That's enough to draw a victory conclusion on Hela's behalf.
Originally posted by Josh_Alexander
What the hell are you talking about now?MCU Valkyrie is as good as Diana.
Thor's Lightning》》》》》》》Diana. That's enough to draw a victory conclusion on Hela's behalf.
WW beat Ares by redirecting lightning. This doesn't apply to Hela, therefore the abc logic is faulty.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Easily done, He grappled with his younger self during their fight in Endgame and he slammed Red Skull into the flight chair in his first movie. done.So, were you mistaken or did you lie?
Originally posted by h1a8
False statements aren't opinions. You need to go back to grammar school and relearn "opinion".Sure go ahead and list 2 times Cap tackled someone, got them to the ground, and fought them on the ground.
Tackled + take to ground + fought on ground
Red skull example is Cap pushing Red skull into chair with shield.
No take down and no fight on the ground there.
Endgame example has Cap counter a punch with a judo throw. He didn't tackle and take to the ground.
Originally posted by h1a8
Look at my postTackled + take to ground + fought on ground
Red skull example is Cap pushing Red skull into chair with shield.
No take down and no fight on the ground there.Endgame example has Cap counter a punch with a judo throw. He didn't tackle and take to the ground.
No, this is about whether or not Cap has ever used the tactics Nib was talking about, the ones you claimed were OOC. My examples prove that Nib wasn't using OOC tactics.
So, were you mistaken or were you lying?
Originally posted by Silent Master
No, this is about whether or not Cap has ever used the tactics Nib was talking about, the ones you claimed were OOC. My examples prove that Nib wasn't using OOC tactics.So, were you mistaken or were you lying?
The tactic NIB mentions is in my post. Tackles + take down + fight on ground. Cap never fought like that.
Originally posted by h1a8
The tactic NIB mentions is in my post. Tackles + take down + fight on ground. Cap never fought like that.
Wrong, Nib's stated tactics, that you claimed were OOC were not restricted to Tackles + take down + fight. Nib brought up multiple things including clinch and grappling, Nib then said and this is a direct quote from "Then Cap wins via choke/submission/ground and ground" he later edited that he meant ground and pound.
You claimed that Nib tactics were OOC, I've just proven via actual feats that Cap has indeed fought like Nib was talking about.
So, were you mistaken or did you lie?
Originally posted by h1a8
TK? Teleportation? Did you watch the movie?There is no evidence to suggest that she resist lightning indefinitely as she was affected by Thor's lightning but recovered
Yeah I saw a far inferior combatant in Wonder Woman stomping his butt.
His TK wasnt very impressive. Not compared to arguably the most powerful Marvel villain.
No she wasnt effected. Thor outright stated it did nothing to her.
You can keep accusing me of not seeing the film, but its just a desperate attempt on your end to ignore a major lack of feats from Ares to put him anywhere near Thor level, let alone Hela.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Hm. SM pretty much got h1’s double standard liar-trolling dead to rights here. So I guess I don’t have to butt in. 😄Imma just grab popcorn, I guess.
There is no double standard. If a character's shows something at least once then it is a viable tactic. You were saying that a character will do shit he hasn't shown once.
Everything I say Ares will do is based off what he showed in the movie.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
Yeah I saw a far inferior combatant in Wonder Woman stomping his butt.His TK wasnt very impressive. Not compared to arguably the most powerful Marvel villain.
No she wasnt effected. Thor outright stated it did nothing to her.
You can keep accusing me of not seeing the film, but its just a desperate attempt on your end to ignore a major lack of feats from Ares to put him anywhere near Thor level, let alone Hela.
Redirecting his lightning is how WW won.
TK is TK. That's impressive on its on. But his tk was impressive. He lifted a huge chunk of concrete from the ground and easily ripped off the tracks of a tank.
Any blade thrown at him can be stopped and turned around and sent back. Ares can also teleport and fly. Ares has awesome reflexes (as he reacted to WW lasso from close range and a sword thrust from close range).
Characters fight at their best, not their worst.
His durability is off the charts. WW punches had no affect and his hand disintegrated the sword. His strength is phenomenal. He punched WW, from the ground, a long ass distance and had her crush the front plate of a tank.
The power of lightning is based off the time of the strike/absorb. Ares has absorbed more energy (10+ seconds worth) than Thor had in his bolt against Hela.
It did nothing because Hela recovered. She was out of the fight for awhile.
There is no evidence to suggest that
1. Lightning doesn't affect her at all
2. She can keep recovering indefinitely (especially outside of Asgard).