Originally posted by Damborgson
That's definitely not what's in question though.
Well it is.
If you're taking a high end feat of Thanos, then surely you should take a high end feat of Superman's?
Saying that you've seen Superman hurt by far less, means nothing when we have also seen Thanos hurt by far less.
Its like asking if Thor can take a punch from Doomsday...when we've seen him harmed by less. Of course you and other would jump in with higher feats (as you RIGHTLY should).
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yes, but Thanos ALSO ranges in durability. So.....
This isn't lowballing?
We know Thanos ranges, every comic character does, that doesn't address Superman's terrible performance against lesser mystical energy on a consistent basis. I can post several examples if you'd like
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
This isn't lowballing?We know Thanos ranges, every comic character does, that doesn't address Superman's terrible performance against lesser mystical energy on a consistent basis. I can post several examples if you'd like
No it isn't, lmao.
As you yourself say in your own post, we all know Thanos ranges. I think you need to sit back and grasp basic concepts first.
Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Thanos tanks the attack because HE'S that durable. Superman doesn't because MAGIC plays a HUGE factor into this. i don't even know why you said that lmao
You do know Superman has tanked and resisted Magic’s from sky fathers in their own realm right?
Superman is also not weak to magic, he’s susceptible to its effects. It’s like me saying I’m weak to bullets.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Well it is.If you're taking a high end feat of Thanos, then surely you should take a high end feat of Superman's?
Saying that you've seen Superman hurt by far less, means nothing when we have also seen Thanos hurt by far less.
Its like asking if Thor can take a punch from Doomsday...when we've seen him harmed by less. Of course you and other would jump in with higher feats (as you RIGHTLY should).
Is it a high end fear of Thanos ? Seems to be pretty in line with his durability to be honest. He wasn’t tanking Gungir, just enduring it.
But I didn’t JUST point out he’s been harmed by far less. Clark’s been harmed by every level of magic in between. And it’s a specific vulnerability , which distinguishes it from your average durability feat.
Originally posted by Damborgson
Is it a high end fear of Thanos ? Seems to be pretty in line with his durability to be honest. He wasn’t tanking Gungir, just enduring it.But I didn’t JUST point out he’s been harmed by far less. Clark’s been harmed by every level of magic in between. And it’s a specific vulnerability , which distinguishes it from your average durability feat.
You tell me, how highly do you see Odin?
As for tanking...he literally waded through it to grab the spear.
At his best amp or no amp, there is no question Supes tanks it without a mark on him. Even with the magic issue in play.
Supes is not a Marvel character so you can't use hierarchy from a different company to scale him and say he is below Odin. Gtfo with this "he's a skyfather" title slinging as if that's supposed to mean anything in a cross company battle board fight.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You tell me, how highly do you see Odin?As for tanking...he literally waded through it to grab the spear.
As the highest echelon of skyfather. At least at the time of the scans.
Yes but it visibly messed him up.
Tanking it would mean he takes it like Superman takes bullets (at least that’s how I’ve been using the term)
Originally posted by Damborgson
A)It doesn't take that powerful magic to hurt Superman.
Because while Enchantress is pretty powerful
https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/8/80103/4325851-superman%20batman%2003-17.jpg
Nightshade isn't that crazy.And neither is Viking:
So it ranges quite a bit. It's meant to be a weakness. This is explicitly states in every incarnation Superman has ever had.
You even have character who make a point of pointing out that they're different than Superman, like SBP and ignore magic instead of being vulnerable to it.
So Odin, the highest of Skyfathers in Marvel would 100% roast his ass with a direct Gungir blast like that, knock that crap out of here.
I'm willing to list the times Superman has done well against magic vs the times he's been specifically affected by it. /shrug
There's Superman tanking several blasts from Shazam.
https://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216i.jpg
https://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216j.jpg
https://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/superman216k.jpg
Or taking blast from a hugely amped Mordru
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesmordrumagic1.jpg
https://i1093.photobucket.com/albums/i436/KMCPhilosophia/supesmordrumagic2.jpg
Or tanking blasts from Molly the keeper who had power of all Olympian gods and Atlantis.
Fights and tanks Molly's attack, which contains the combined power of Olympus, Speed Force, GL energy and Atlantean Energy, and it was big enough to move the entire Earth Solar System timeline to the end of the Universe.
https://ibb.co/bHHGkrv
https://ibb.co/6tNxZ50
https://ibb.co/vvQLMyV
https://ibb.co/L8wK6X6
https://ibb.co/QC0fg81
https://ibb.co/Bnv5gM6
https://ibb.co/wY4TxXD
https://ibb.co/zhJdR13
https://ibb.co/7yqTGmS
So eh, Superman can be hurt by Odin, koed or near death or he just walks through the attacks and knocks Odin's teeth out. It depends on what we choose to draw from.
In the Shazam scans, the wizard was only trying to disable him. By Eclipso kept forcing Superman to go forward. And yeah, of course It’s impressive, but Billy was more worried about Superman getting killed than anything else.
Kinetix interrupting him is the only reason Mordru stopped his assault on Superman, and Superman got his moment to retaliate.
Also, being that Kinetix was still there and kicking, that would have been before Mordru was super amped no ? Not that he’s weak regardless.
And that is a very high end showing for Superman yes, something to be expected from him.
