Who truly has the faster reaction speed: Supes or Diana

Also, just to add a little spice to this, it was outright said while Superman was being controlled, he was acting intellectually BRILLIANT. Making tactically brilliant decisions...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814852-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_52.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814854-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_53.jpg

It was so strategically done so well that Martian Manhunter thought mind control couldnt play a factor in something like that.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, just to add a little spice to this, it was outright said while Superman was being controlled, he was acting intellectually BRILLIANT. Making tactically brilliant decisions...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814852-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_52.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814854-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_53.jpg

It was so strategically done so well that Martian Manhunter thought mind control couldnt play a factor in something like that.

This is why I say Max Lord's power is not telepathy.

People always compare his ability to conventional telepaths like Charles Xavier or Cassandra Nova, but its clearly something else entirely. I don't believe high level telepaths are even capable of defending against it.

Edit

Originally posted by Diesldude
look at this coward I mean carver, says he has me on ignore but can’t stop talking about me. He doesn’t have the balls torespond to my posts and wants me to get spammed with meme while he has his pussy lips making rounds all over the internet.

WTF.

Originally posted by carver9
Also, just to add a little spice to this, it was outright said while Superman was being controlled, he was acting intellectually BRILLIANT. Making tactically brilliant decisions...

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814852-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_52.jpg
https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/6/67985/2814854-dcp_essentials___superman__sacrifice___dc____compiled_by_kritter_dcp___page_53.jpg

It was so strategically done so well that Martian Manhunter thought mind control couldnt play a factor in something like that.

Your links aren't working for me, but I'm going to guess you're talking about Superman attacking Batman on the watchtower? A completely different fight where Superman is acting differently?

Originally posted by -Pr-
WTF.

Your links aren't working for me, but I'm going to guess you're talking about Superman attacking Batman on the watchtower? A completely different fight where Superman is acting differently?

This...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/56343796/8284307.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/56343797/8622809.jpg.html

And he was trying to kill Batman. Batman almost died tbh.

Originally posted by -Pr-
WTF.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Which time?

And no, there's nothing in the fight that proves WW has faster reflexes. And I keep seeing people talking about it like Diana was winning... when she wasn't. She was getting her ass-kicked. Funny how people leave that part out.

Where’s Superman shooting his heat vision? Or that swing and miss.

Originally posted by Diesldude
When the hulk was “manipulated” to fight Ben, he wanted to fight him and got goaded in. the hulkster understood that Superman was manipulated he incorrectly thinks that it all types of manipulations are the same and they impact the fight the same way.

The hulk was told to fight Ben, he knew he was fighting him, wanted to fight him and wasn’t holding back. Superman was seeing something different that what was there.

This is why you have Superman shooting his heat vision and missing while cracking ww’s wrists.

He could have ended the fight many times. 1) he wanted Dd to suffer and 2) when he wanted to hit he was missing because he was seeing something else than what was there.

The manipulation was nowhere near the same and Superman who never said he was going all out, was handicapped because he was seeing what was not there, TheHulkster even admitted this.

Originally posted by carver9
This...

https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/56343796/8284307.jpg.html
https://www.turboimagehost.com/p/56343797/8622809.jpg.html

And he was trying to kill Batman. Batman almost died tbh.

Yes, that's the part I was talking about. It's not relevant to this discussion. Then again neither is Sacrifice, but people keep bringing it up.

And before you say anything, Max changes what Superman is seeing between then and the fight with WW, so they definitely aren't the same.

Originally posted by Diesldude
Here is the post..

Where’s Superman shooting his heat vision? Or that swing and miss.

Hmm. Okay, I see what you're saying. Not saying I 100% agree, but I think it's a stronger argument than it was before.

LMAO!! If Superman is swinging 3 feet over WW"s head, why would she duck? Look at that scan idiot and picture WW not ducking, do you see the DEAD GIVE AWAY the writer used to show that if she didn't duck, she would have been hit. What's following supermans swing?? How did he knock her towards the sun?? Did she grow 3 feet so she can get hit?? Yet you say people are not intelligent?? While it's YOU who constantly get caught in lies and twist scans in the EXPECTED attempt to save face for Superman. You sir are NOT intelligent enough to comprehend a simple comic book fight.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Yes, that's the part I was talking about. It's not relevant to this discussion. Then again neither is Sacrifice, but people keep bringing it up.

And before you say anything, Max changes what Superman is seeing between then and the fight with WW, so they definitely aren't the same.

Hmm. Okay, I see what you're saying. Not saying I 100% agree, but I think it's a stronger argument than it was before.

Ok, I agree with this. I think during this instance "iirc" he thought he was fighting Ruin.

FYI for anyone that is reading this, im not using Sacrifice here, im just pointing out the laughable suggestion of the height comments about Diana and Doomsday.

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO!! If Superman is swinging 3 feet over WW"s head, why would she duck? Look at that scan idiot and picture WW not ducking, do you see the DEAD GIVE AWAY the writer used to show that if she didn't duck, she would have been hit. What's following supermans swing?? How did he knock her towards the sun?? Did she grow 3 feet so she can get hit?? Yet you say people are not intelligent?? While it's YOU who constantly get caught in lies and twist scans in the EXPECTED attempt to save face for Superman. You sir are NOT intelligent enough to comprehend a simple comic book fight.

Lol... wait a minute, did he mention the part where Superman swings a punch and Diana ducks/dodge the swing which leads to Superman missing? 😂 😂

Comprehension for the win. How do you even reply to him? Darksaint would be a better person to debate this with.

Yeah but neither of you are good enough to debate against, so.....

Originally posted by JBL
LMAO!! If Superman is swinging 3 feet over WW"s head, why would she duck? Look at that scan idiot and picture WW not ducking, do you see the DEAD GIVE AWAY the writer used to show that if she didn't duck, she would have been hit. What's following supermans swing?? How did he knock her towards the sun?? Did she grow 3 feet so she can get hit?? Yet you say people are not intelligent?? While it's YOU who constantly get caught in lies and twist scans in the EXPECTED attempt to save face for Superman. You sir are NOT intelligent enough to comprehend a simple comic book fight.

You shouldn’t call anyone an idiot because the entire board knows your just a stupid troll. I have neither the time nor the crayons to explain these scans to you. So You tell me where gladiator rips a black hole? Or where Superman is shooting his heat vision? Up your ass?

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Yeah but neither of you are good enough to debate against, so.....

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... wait a minute, did he mention the part where Superman swings a punch and Diana ducks/dodge the swing which leads to Superman missing? 😂 😂

Comprehension for the win. How do you even reply to him? Darksaint would be a better person to debate this with.

Originally posted by JBL
lol. I respond because I need a good laugh every now and then. Darksaint is a Superman fan himself, did you see where he actually came to that idiots defense instead of correcting him? Not much of a difference between the two. But it's about Superman, so they will stick together even if it's in the shadows.

You mean the part where I corrected you on likening Superman to a drunk person?

It wasn't me who did so. It was Pr.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
You mean the part where I corrected you on likening Superman to a drunk person?

It wasn't me who did so. It was Pr.

But anyway, I'm about to see if I'm intelligent enough to hook one of my boats up to my truck and drive to the lake and do some fishing. Wish me luck👍

Originally posted by carver9
Lol... wait a minute, did he mention the part where Superman swings a punch and Diana ducks/dodge the swing which leads to Superman missing? 😂 😂

Comprehension for the win. How do you even reply to him? Darksaint would be a better person to debate this with.

One minute Superman is shooting heat vision up over Ww head and the next scan he’s swinging over her. He’s clearly not seeing ww and where she is. Superman was breaking her wrists so she couldn’t duck. You’ve never gotten into a scuffle in your life so you wouldn’t understand this sequence of events. Never thought I’d see the day anyone would be a beta to JBL but carver never fails to surprise.

I’m sure you(carver) is sending him close up of your lips via pm. 😂

Originally posted by JBL
But anyway, I'm about to see if I'm intelligent enough to hook one of my boats up to my truck and drive to the lake and do some fishing. Wish me luck👍