Which of these characters can replicate this feat

Started by h1a819 pages

Originally posted by TheHulkster
One thing of note is that during an incursion, the only part of each universe that incurs into the other is Earth. The rest of the universe remains outside of the incursion area, which is why it remains hidden. As we see below, the Infinity Gauntlet doesn't function outside of it's native universe:

https://m.imgur.com/a/7Rj5ZCj

So the only part of the incurring universe that the IG can effect is the Earth. So Cap's push can only be directed at the incurring Earth but by pushing that Earth back, he also pushes that universe back. Reed's words support this. In the same way, by holding the two Earth's apart, Hyperion similarly holds two universes apart and apparently, the Great Society does something similar possibly using something that is their equivalent of the IG.

During an incursion, Hickman treats Earth like a fixed part of the universe and explains this with the "island" analogy as opposed to the fanboy created analogy of a ball in water. 🙄

Doesn't matter as pushing back a planet stops the incursion according to GS.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wait...………….

YOU DO know that FTL KE is unquantifiable by definition, right?

😂 😂

h8, I noticed you avoided and dodged this question. I'll post it again

h1, about the Superman feat

You can't make calcs that violate the laws of physics unless those physics are explicitly stated not to apply in that setting. And I don't mean exceptions existing, I mean a statement that relativity isn't a thing under any circumstances and the entire universe is Newtonian.

Originally posted by Diesldude
This goes for the beta cuck AlbertoJohnViles hiding behind your post too.

https://lowbrowcomics.com/2015/07/20/the-infinity-stones-before-the-end-of-the-world/

This is the incursion point 1)strange says normal rules don’t apply.
2) cap failed. What did he fail at?
3) Writer tells us via reed that Cap is literally pushing the universe away. Not the earth but the universe. He failed to push the universe away. Could be because it didn’t affect the other universe like your scan said but normal rules don’t apply per Strange.. So it could have run out of juice.

But he was at the incursion point and was pushing the universe away. Stated by reed literally. This word rules out any other possibilities. Literally.
This is the entire scene in question and not some cropped up scans you’ve been posting and the cuck parroting around.

Strange's comment explains why the appearance of the other Earth doesn't cause global disturbances.

Cap doesn't fail. He successfully pushes the universe away and stops the incursion.

I'm not understanding how the word "literally" supports what you are saying. Literally means without exaggeration. What was I declaring to be an exaggeration?

I think that you are confusing "literally" with "directly".

Originally posted by h1a8
Doesn't matter as pushing back a planet stops the incursion according to GS.

But pushing the anchor planet pushes the universe according to Reed.

Originally posted by TheHulkster
But pushing the anchor planet pushes the universe according to Reed.

Incorrect. Nowhere it says that. It only states that Cap is pushing back BOTH. Note: the incursion only happens when the two key planets collide. So pushing back the universe automatically pushes back the planet since it's a subset of the universe.

Even if pushing back the key planet pushes back the universe (made up speculation) then the feat is simple. Just push back the planet. As what the GS did.

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
Wait...………….

YOU DO know that FTL KE is unquantifiable by definition, right?

😂 😂

Originally posted by AlbertoJohnAvil
h1, about the Superman feat

You can't make calcs that violate the laws of physics unless those physics are explicitly stated not to apply in that setting. And I don't mean exceptions existing, I mean a statement that relativity isn't a thing under any circumstances and the entire universe is Newtonian.

h1, concession ACCEPTED. Like how you ignored two points that destroys your entire arguments about Superman BrEaKiNG ChaIns!!!

Don't wanna see you or anybody else bringing that feat up again in any other thread 😂

Originally posted by h1a8
Incorrect. Nowhere it says that. It only states that Cap is pushing back BOTH. Note: the incursion only happens when the two key planets collide. So pushing back the universe automatically pushes back the planet since it's a subset of the universe.

Even if pushing back the key planet pushes back the universe (made up speculation) then the feat is simple. Just push back the planet. As what the GS did.

In the below statement, Reed directly states that he is pushing the planet and then clarifies what this equates to between the the double hyphens. The double hyphens work almost identically to parentheses and a phrase in parentheses clarifies the meaning of what it comes after. So when read says "--push the universe--", he is clarifying what pushing the planet equates to.

https://imgur.com/a/re1wlF5

If "--push the universe--" is removed from the sentence, the meaning of the sentence doesn't change, yet if you remove "push the planet", you change the meaning of the statement.

Also, as stressed in the scan below, the IG cannot work outside of it's native universe. During an incursion, only the Earth of the approaching universe encurs into the 616 universe, thus the IG can only act directly upon that Earth and not the hidden universe.

https://imgur.com/a/iO4mxBr

And as we see in the below Image, the energy emitted from the IG is acting specifically on the incurring Earth

https://imgur.com/a/fOffcEd

It is also stated that each incursion functions under the same parameters, so if pushing the Earth is clarified as equating to pushing the universe in one instance, then it must apply to every other and the strain placed on the IG definitely means that it is pushing against universal force.

When Rune King Thor broke the threads of fate, isn't that feat greater? Go back and read it again, and then answer.

Any of these characters can. Lol. Thor literally almost destroyed the entire Universe by lifting the tree of life. He destroyed the entire rainbow bridge just by flexing. Hulk is Hulk. He achieve this ft at one of his weakest incarnation. There were beings in this story that was stronger than Superman.

Originally posted by Philosophía
The chains are used to specifically carry suns across the galaxy. That is their purpose -- the 'unbreakable' part was proven as untrue since Superman broke them, but that has nothing to do with the actual feat of Superman exerting enough strength to move trillions and trillions of suns.

It's like -- for example -- you come to me and say "This phone has the best camera ever. I've used it to take photos of my lips in my grandma's dimly lit bathroom and they turn out amazing!!".

Now, it's not the best camera ever -- that's the hyperbole. But the camera still has the feat of capturing your pussy lips.

Get it?

😂

Originally posted by carver9
Any of these characters can. Lol. Thor literally almost destroyed the entire Universe by lifting the tree of life. He destroyed the entire rainbow bridge just by flexing. Hulk is Hulk. He achieve this ft at one of his weakest incarnation. There were beings in this story that was stronger than Superman.

So you resort to unquantifiable feats.
Thor moving the world engine is unquantifiable. We have no idea how much force that took (1000 tons, 100 000 tons?).

A star weight >>>>>> force to break the rainbow bridge
Millions of star weight >>>>> One (1) star weight (in which Hulk never lifted)

So you provided evidence for Thor. But haven't proven why each character can do it.

Let me ask you a question. How much force do you think it takes? Give me a range from lowest to highest.