Deadpool vs Ozymandias w. stips

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Originally posted by Silent Master
Are you saying that DP isn't allowed to counter-attack?
Of course. But Ozy is at an advantage since he always wait for someone to attack first. Ozy chances of attacking first is slim to none. And even if Ozy attacks and DP counters then the fight isn't over. In other words, Ozy gets way more licks than DP does and therefore has the advantage.

Originally posted by h1a8
Of course. But Ozy is at an advantage since he always wait for someone to attack first. Ozy chances of attacking first is slim to none. And even if Ozy attacks and DP counters then the fight isn't over. In other words, Ozy gets way more licks than DP does and therefore has the advantage.

How does Ozy get more licks in when DP counters all his attacks?

Originally posted by Silent Master
How does Ozy get more licks in when DP counters all his attacks?

DP can't counter when he is being countered.

Originally posted by h1a8
DP can't counter when he is being countered.

So, DP isn't allowed to counter Ozy's counters. he has to just stand there and take it?

Originally posted by Silent Master
So, DP isn't allowed to counter Ozy's counters. he has to just stand there and take it?

Nope to first question. That would negate the definition of counter.

Originally posted by h1a8
Nope to first question. That would negate the definition of counter.

I don't see a rule in the OP says DP isn't allowed to counter. where are you getting this rule from?

Originally posted by Silent Master
I don't see a rule in the OP says DP isn't allowed to counter. where are you getting this rule from?

DP can only counter if Ozy attacks first. That's why it's called a "counter". If Ozy never attacks first then DP can't counter. That's like asking why someone can't counter if no one attacks them.

DP would attack first. Ozy would dodge or parry and counter while DP is exposed and open.

Then DP would counter Ozy's counter-attack.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then DP would counter Ozy's counter-attack.
That would contradict the word "counter". If DP is able to counter a counter attack then the initial counter wasn't a counter attack at all but rather an attack.

In a nutshell, counter attacks can't be countered and still be counter attacks.

Ozy would indeed counter DP. And there is nothing DP can do about it.

Where is this rule that states counter-attacks can't be countered?

Well, this is going about how I expected.

Originally posted by h1a8
That would contradict the word "counter". If DP is able to counter a counter attack then the initial counter wasn't a counter attack at all but rather an attack.

In a nutshell, counter attacks can't be countered and still be counter attacks.

Ozy would indeed counter DP. And there is nothing DP can do about it.


My ears are now bleeding. 😕

Originally posted by riv6672
My ears are now bleeding. 😕

Nah bro, that's your brain cells. You know all the asinine , bass ackwards stuff you did in the Army for no reason at all that is hard to even describe to your civilian friends? H1 somehow hammered the very concept of it into a single post 🤣 He is some kind of word wizard.

Why does Deadpool outclass Ozy so badly anyway? I thought Ozy was superhuman

More proof H1 is a troll. Would rather play word semantic games than provide valid, feat-based responses (for example, listing examples of opponents comparable to Wade that Ozy has done this to) as to why Deadpool would be unable to react or counter any of Ozy's own attacks. This is a fist fight. It's not a language or grammar debate (not that H1 is particularly competent in that area either). No one is going to dictate their fight behaviour according to H1's opinion on the word 'counter'.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
More proof H1 is a troll. Would rather play word semantic games than provide valid, feat-based responses (for example, listing examples of opponents comparable to Wade that Ozy has done this to) as to why Deadpool would be unable to react or counter any of Ozy's own attacks. This is a fist fight. It's not a language or grammar debate (not that H1 is particularly competent in that area either). No one is going to dictate their fight behaviour according to H1's opinion on the word 'counter'.

So you admit to creating a thread where one guy stomps the other easily and thus baiting? Or do you think the fight is competitive and can go either way?

Because just going by purely visual speeds and showings of skill (defensive especially) against other characters and technique these two are pretty damn comparable with the exception that Ozy always wait for his opponent to attack first in order to counter.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Where is this rule that states counter-attacks can't be countered?

If you fail to counter then it isn't a counter.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
More proof H1 is a troll. Would rather play word semantic games than provide valid, feat-based responses (for example, listing examples of opponents comparable to Wade that Ozy has done this to) as to why Deadpool would be unable to react or counter any of Ozy's own attacks. This is a fist fight. It's not a language or grammar debate (not that H1 is particularly competent in that area either). No one is going to dictate their fight behaviour according to H1's opinion on the word 'counter'.

H1 and SM are both trolls. They’re the same person.

Originally posted by h1a8
If you fail to counter then it isn't a counter.

Then Ozy will never be able to counter as Deadpool's speed advantage will ensure that all his attempts fail.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Then Ozy will never be able to counter as Deadpool's speed advantage will ensure that all his attempts fail.

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Now you are debating!

I disagree. Even if you argue that DP is faster then he is not so much faster that Ozy can't react and use defense.
After all, it doesn't take the same speed as an attack to defend against the attack. A lesser speed would suffice (within a certain percentage). Both can move in relation to bullets.

And by you going solely off the DP bullet feat then that means that you too use top feats as the level a character fights at in a forum fight. Good to know.

As you've stated, it's possible for someone slower to counter a faster character. thus since DP is actually the faster character, he'll have an even easier time countering Ozy.