Originally posted by Silent Master
As you've stated, it's possible for someone slower to counter a faster character. thus since DP is actually the faster character, he'll have an even easier time countering Ozy.
That's if Ozy attacks first.
DP will attack first, and Ozy will parry and counter while DP is exposed.
And by you going solely off the DP bullet feat then that means that you too use top feats as the level a character fights at in a forum fight?
Deadpool dodges or reacts to bullets multiple times. He blocked Cable's shots from point blank range in DP2, he dodged bullets fired from mercenaries several different times. And we literally watch him see a bullet fly past his face, and run after it to save Monica. Even in his melee scenes he's moving faster than Ozy does with his slow, ponderous very obvious movements.
But you're gonna ignore all that and try to play it up so Ozy wins.
Originally posted by KingD19
Deadpool dodges or reacts to bullets multiple times. He blocked Cable's shots from point blank range in DP2, he dodged bullets fired from mercenaries several different times. And we literally watch him see a bullet fly past his face, and run after it to save Monica. Even in his melee scenes he's moving faster than Ozy does with his slow, ponderous very obvious movements.But you're gonna ignore all that and try to play it up so Ozy wins.
Don't you love that he is trying to pretend like people are basing their arguments off a single feat despite the fact that multiple have directly been referenced throughout the discussion, as well as some performed by people Deadpool has fought? While he simultaneously actually bases Ozy's speed off one feat.
Though I'd be lying if I said I was surprised. He's tried these kinds of gaslighting tactics before, either trying to skew the narrative of what happened earlier in a thread once it's gotten past a few pages or to slip his own stips into the match and pretend they were always there.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
Don't you love that he is trying to pretend like people are basing their arguments off a single feat despite the fact that multiple have directly been referenced throughout the discussion, as well as some performed by people Deadpool has fought? While he simultaneously actually bases Ozy's speed off one feat.Though I'd be lying if I said I was surprised. He's tried these kinds of gaslighting tactics before, either trying to skew the narrative of what happened earlier in a thread once it's gotten past a few pages or to slip his own stips into the match and pretend they were always there.
Don't you love how you are lying and covering up the truth. Everyone here (except you allegedly) is using the bullet feat as the sole reason why DP is faster than Ozy. You are so bias that you don't see it? I have no problem with it. But ill be damned if people think I'm the only one that does it. I can name at least 3 people that have done it in this very thread.
With that said, ABC logic doesn't always work in fiction. A slower character can fight evenly with a character with speed feats. Spider-Man gets hit by shit far slower than bullets, Superman has fought with similar speed with Slower characters , etc.
Saying that since Ajax ALLEGEDLY dodged a bullet (moved his head slightly) and DP fought him with comparable speed then somehow that's a speed feat for DP is the dumbest logic ever.
So you admit to creating a thread where one guy stomps the other easily and thus baiting? Or do you think the fight is competitive and can go either way?
Originally posted by KingD19Ozy caught a bullet at point blank range. Their speed is comparable. If DP is faster then he is not way faster. DP only managed to move a small amount when trying to save Monica.
Deadpool dodges or reacts to bullets multiple times. He blocked Cable's shots from point blank range in DP2, he dodged bullets fired from mercenaries several different times. And we literally watch him see a bullet fly past his face, and run after it to save Monica. Even in his melee scenes he's moving faster than Ozy does with his slow, ponderous very obvious movements.But you're gonna ignore all that and try to play it up so Ozy wins.
Originally posted by KingD19
Deadpool dodges or reacts to bullets multiple times. He blocked Cable's shots from point blank range in DP2, he dodged bullets fired from mercenaries several different times. And we literally watch him see a bullet fly past his face, and run after it to save Monica. Even in his melee scenes he's moving faster than Ozy does with his slow, ponderous very obvious movements.But you're gonna ignore all that and try to play it up so Ozy wins.
Agreed. based on all feats. DP is clearly faster.
Originally posted by Silent Master
Per all feats, DP is significantly faster and wins this fight.
Stop lying. DP is not significantly faster. Both can react to bullets from close range. Their speed is comparable.
If you believe that DP is significantly faster then you must agree that Vault purposely created a spite thread in order to bait. Right?
One thing people should remember.
This is the Ozymandias bullet catch:
YouTube video
Laurie is using a Smith and Wesson Model 10:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Watchmen_(2009)
That has a muzzle velocity of 290m/s:
https://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantry/pistol/M10.html
OTOH, Vanessa was shot by Beretta 92FS (I am assuming here, btw, so feel free to correct this point of mine:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Deadpool_2
Berettas have a muzzle velocity of 381m/s:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beretta_92
TL;DR: Even if we say that Wade's speed was SLIGHTLY faster based on his reactions, we now have to MASSIVELY upgrade this because he was reacting to a bullet that was ~100 metres per second faster than Laurie's revolver bullet.
Edit: and in THIS scene:
YouTube video
(which, incidentally, I saw filming of, by-the-by) Cable is wielding a Walther PPQ:
http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/Deadpool_2
Cross checking with:
https://www.personaldefenseworld.com/2017/09/walther-q5-match-pistol/
Gives me an 'average' muzzle velocity of 395 meters per second.
And Wade slices that bullet in half.
That's a pretty epic strawman attempt. Other people's views/statements (i.e. not mine) on their speed comparative to each other has sweet phuck all to do with my intentions. But, as I have pointed out in the past, H1's bias starts with the other posters here, before we even get to the actual characters being discussed. He has shown that he has absolutely no qualms about haphazardly miss-attributing statements and intentions between different posters in his attempts to smear people who call him out.
Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
That's a pretty epic strawman attempt. Other people's views/statements (i.e. not mine) on their speed comparative to each other has sweet phuck all to do with my intentions. But, as I have pointed out in the past, H1's bias starts with the other posters here, before we even get to the actual characters being discussed. He has shown that he has absolutely no qualms about haphazardly miss-attributing statements and intentions between different posters in his attempts to smear people who call him out.
You need to learn what a strawman is. My statement has nothing to do with the thread but your intentions. You obviously believe that this fight isn't competitive and DP wins every time.
No, my point is to prove how people debate here. You can weasel and try to con your way into arguing against it but we both know the truth.
Anyway both are comparable in speed by visual h2h fight scenes and by bullet feats. DP could be slightly faster though. But since Ozy is arguably slightly more skilled and primarily counter attacks (usually don't attack first) then he would have the advantage.