Hickman's X-Men

Originally posted by StyleTime
I prefer the open relationship to the old love triangle to be honest. Maybe they've just developed beyond their old notions of what their relationship should look like. There's no reason they have to be monogamous, if it doesn't suit them.

That said, I just think Scott and Jean should have stayed separated. Morrison did a really good job showing them grow apart romantically, and I don't like that being discarded. Jean and Wolverine feel much more organic as a couple too. While X-Force isn't the greatest series, their conversations feel more authentic and both characters are themselves around each other. Neither really becomes background noise to the other.

Jean with Scott just feels almost...performative at this point, like "wife" and "husband" are just positions they play on a sports team. Honestly, I'd rather Emma be with Scott as they just work better.

I wouldn't mind Jean just being single either.

^ Good post.

Originally posted by StyleTime
It is kinda funny, huh?

Walking around despite literally being skeleton. Her clothing still has boob imprints. Mask completely undamaged.

It reminds me of the scan srank posted, where Wolverine climbed out of a vault of acid as a complete skeleton.

Vault of molten metal, if you're thinking of that Wolverine Annual.

It was re-posted a million times, not just by srank. But perhaps he was the first one to share it... you sure sound like a kmc grandpa, Style.

High-end feat to be sure, but it was sort of implied that it did take him a good while to recover fully and strike at the mobsters again.

Logically, he shouldn't be able to move as a skeleton of course... unless we assume that either Gaea's or Lazaer's supernatural connections are there at work. Or that he adapted far beyond limits of human physiology 😂

Originally posted by dyajeep
i'm loving Hickman's X-Men except for these 2 things:

- how is Scott okay with Logan and Jean? this is stupid... we've had a soft reboot and instead of keeping Logan away from Scott and Jean, Hickman even made them a throuple, for f*ck's sake

- we've seen disgusting moments of Jean and Logan but we've never seen Scott and Emma yet, this is my saving grace

I don't believe for one second that Scott would be okay with sharing Jean with Logan. Logan I can see it, Jean I can see it, but not Scott.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I don't believe for one second that Scott would be okay with sharing Jean with Logan. Logan I can see it, Jean I can see it, but not Scott.

precisely, and even though i'm loving the fact that "the X-Men" are now recognized as heroes, they basically are and they already did this storyline several times before... so i'm also thinking when will this "era of Krakoa" end? i'm pretty much waiting to see how this pans out, and i believe Xavier did some worldwide mindsh*t for this to happen

Originally posted by StyleTime
I prefer the open relationship to the old love triangle to be honest. Maybe they've just developed beyond their old notions of what their relationship should look like. There's no reason they have to be monogamous, if it doesn't suit them.

That said, I just think Scott and Jean should have stayed separated. Morrison did a really good job showing them grow apart romantically, and I don't like that being discarded. Jean and Wolverine feel much more organic as a couple too. While X-Force isn't the greatest series, their conversations feel more authentic and both characters are themselves around each other. Neither really becomes background noise to the other.

Jean with Scott just feels almost...performative at this point, like "wife" and "husband" are just positions they play on a sports team. Honestly, I'd rather Emma be with Scott as they just work better.

I wouldn't mind Jean just being single either.

i don't want it to be a love triangle, and i do agree that Scott should move on with Emma, and going back with Jean is just like going back to the drawing board... again!

just my take:

- Logan stays the f*ck away from Jean and the Summers family, he's got too much sh*t on other comics
- Jean stays single, or even flirts with Logan (i don't really care because writers can't erase that freakin' ship off their minds)
- Scott moves on with Emma
- Scott and Jean co-parents their children/family

the conversations of Jean and Logan in X-Force seems organic or mature because they don't have to hide their lasciviousness from Scott, and over the years, Scott and Emma remains a solid mature couple and it's a waste that up until now, they still have no romantic moments

they don't have to be monogamous but it should still be according to their character/personality, these are really their missed opportunities in the soft reboot

I feel like there's still a chance that it all goes pear-shaped at the end, as tends to happen with Hickman's runs on big teams (F4, Avengers had big climaxes). As things stand though, he's gone (imo at least) way too far in trying to make the X-Men come across as the "other". There's no "we're Humans but a bit different" attitude anymore. And it honestly feels like a lot of the time, the mutants arrogantly believe that they're plain better than Humanity. Or at the very least more evolved.

The open relationship between the "big three" is another aspect of that, and I wonder how many writers will stick with it afterwards.

Not to mention the possibility that they're all clones anyway or something.

Originally posted by dyajeep
just my take:

- Logan stays the f*ck away from Jean and the Summers family, he's got too much sh*t on other comics

KMC is like a time travel machine, I swear.

It's not 2005 anymore, dya.

Logan hasn't been in many titles since his resurrection.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
KMC is like a time travel machine, I swear.

It's not 2005 anymore, dya.

Logan hasn't been in many titles since his resurrection.

oh, forgot about that 😆 hello 2021 😆

other comics i meant was his own, and X-Force... and if that's the only comics he was in right now then, thank you Marvel 😮‍💨

I bet you have that framed on your wall, don't you.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW

thanks goodness Bear-devil is there to save the day! 😂

Nobody expects The Spanish Inquisition. Or Beardevil 👆

I love it

So, now that the Hickman arc is moving forward with Inferno, I must say it's off to a pretty good start. It appears Moira was unable to account for everything, since...

Spoiler:
Destiny shows up at the end. Sits right next to Xavier and Magneto in the empty Quiet Council seat, much to their dismay.

The crappiest part is that apparently, Marvel really liked the Krakoa era and wanted to extend it beyond Hickman's original plan. They're freezing the status quo so the new writers can play around a bit in the world. Hickman is leaving for a while, but it seems he'll be back later to "close" the era. He originally had it planned out in three parts, which were supposed to happen with no big breaks in between.

I really hate they did that tbh. Other than Zeb Wells on Hellions, the Hickman titles were the only interesting books tbh. Zeb is going off to Spiderman, so we'll probably be back to a very meh X-line until/unless Hickman returns.

Honestly, it would be fine, except I don't enjoy any of these other writers. The artists have mostly been solid though.

Off-topic, but I can't help myself:

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
The best of Magik... her greatest character moment in 46 years... just for StyleTime:

😂 Don't let ngw2 see that.

I do think adding the goofy, dumb element to Magik was a good idea. The 24/7 edgelord thing got old immediately. Having her be unrestrained in a sillier way also makes for a better contrast if anyone wants to explore her going evil again.

I agree here, actually 👆

Allowing herself to be silly = fantastic way to begin the healing process.

Still, quite out of character. Or maybe she was hoping to get hired as Wolverine's sidekick this way, worked for Jubilee 😂

Originally posted by riv6672
Don’t like the current run.

Everyone’s acting out of character for story’s sake, and that story is depicting glorified cult.
Stories like this are the reason alternate realities exist, so writers can indulge themselves without damaging the main universe.

Meh,
I survived Morrison’s all-leather-shirtless-Wolvie-turn-Scott-into-a-douche-cat-beast run, i’ll survive this one.

Worst run since every other Xmen run.

Originally posted by cdtm
Worst run since every other Xmen run.

I wouldn't go that far.

S.W.O.R.D. mini probably had the best iteration of Beast and Abigail Brand ever.

A shame that couldn't have become the standard. Made a cute couple too.

Originally posted by -Pr-
I wouldn't go that far.

👆

Hell, it's been rather well-received, that's why it's still going and has so many tie-ins.

It sure can be controversial, but mutants always are, and the biggest flaw is Hickman stealing ideas from Eternals and other works.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
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Hell, it's been rather well-received, that's why it's still going and has so many tie-ins.

It sure can be controversial, but mutants always are, and the biggest flaw is Hickman stealing ideas from Eternals and other works.

That and some god-awful characterization.