Nintendo should just make a powerful console.

Why do we give Nintendo a pass for not making a powerful console like Sony and Microsoft? Why do we let them be different for the sake of being different? A triangular wheel is different, but that doesn't make it useful.

If Nintendo wants to get third party support, they need to make a powerful console. It's as simple as that.

They're like the Italian Mafia before Michael Corleone. The dinosaurs in charge thought CD Roms were a passing fad, and carts were the way to go.

They can get away with it because they're the video game equivalent of Disney, and their fan base will throw money at the same crap they've been putting out forever.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
If Nintendo wants to get third party support, they need to make a powerful console. It's as simple as that.

They don't want or need third party support. Nintendo has been most successful when doing their own thing like with the Wii and Switch. The one time they directly competed with Microsoft and Sony was with the Gamecube (which was the most powerful console at the time) and they got creamed.

Originally posted by ares834
They don't want or need third party support. Nintendo has been most successful when doing their own thing like with the Wii and Switch. The one time they directly competed with Microsoft and Sony was with the Gamecube (which was the most powerful console at the time) and they got creamed.

The GameCube failed because Nintendo made the stupid decision to use those tiny discs, which made it harder to develop for.

Nobody buys Nintendo consoles for third party games. That idea ended when the Wii became one of the most successful consoles ever.

Originally posted by VG_Addict
The GameCube failed because Nintendo made the stupid decision to use those tiny discs, which made it harder to develop for.

Partially. Either way, the found great success in making a weaker but unique console. Plus, handhelds have always been Nintendo's strong suit.

As others have stated, Nintendo has no reason to change. They make a shit ton of money, much to the dismay of certain sections of the "hardcore" crowd.

Phone games make more money than pc and console combined. Device power doesn't matter as much as some wish it did.

I'd prefer that they and everyone else just stop making consoles entirely.

Make a one time big purchase on a high powered gaming PC and then you can play games that run and look much better than on any console for multiple console generations.

Supporting consoles makes the industry shit tbh

Originally posted by VG_Addict
If Nintendo wants to get third party support, they need to make a powerful console.

Buddy... Have you seen the Switch library?... At this point it's nearly as diverse as PS4 and arguably more diverse then Xbone.

I like that Nintendo does their own thing, they still make money regardless. Let Microsoft and Sony trip over one another and their console war thing of who has the biggest and more powerful. Nintendo doesn't need to get involved with that headache.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I'd prefer that they and everyone else just stop making consoles entirely.

Make a one time big purchase on a high powered gaming PC and then you can play games that run and look much better than on any console for multiple console generations.

Supporting consoles makes the industry shit tbh

Consoles were historically more reliable, hassle free, and had a longer life span, compared to PC.

I still play on original hardware over emulation because setting up a PS2 emulator every system is a *****, I don't have a means to extract the system bios and need to pirate it, and the emulation can have bugs.

Same thing with PC games, every new Windows update it's a crap shoot if something gets broken or not.

We are all forgetting that the Wii U was a massive failure.
If Switch followed suit, Nintendo would of been a pretty big problem.

I don't think Nintendo is a sure thing as people think it is. They have their niche and are doing well but a few misses will definitely hurt.

Once we start moving towards cloud based streaming, where will Nintendo be?

And Nintendo is one of the most non-consumer friendly manufacturer/software developer out there.

Originally posted by Smasandian
We are all forgetting that the Wii U was a massive failure.
If Switch followed suit, Nintendo would of been a pretty big problem.

I don't think Nintendo is a sure thing as people think it is. They have their niche and are doing well but a few misses will definitely hurt.

Once we start moving towards cloud based streaming, where will Nintendo be?

And Nintendo is one of the most non-consumer friendly manufacturer/software developer out there.

How many people do you know, truly, or hell, even heard about, that decided to go for download-only?

People still value physical media, and I have no doubt that Nintendo, Sony, & Microsoft agree.

Also, Nintendo has mountains of third-party support, just because majority are ports, doesn't mean they don't count, Nintendo needed these ports to catch up with the gaming world.

They keep bringing bigger and bigger games to Switch and everyone keeps getting shocked.

How many of you were super surprised when you saw Skyrim on Switch alone?? Then DOOM 2016, Dark Souls, Dragon's Dogma, Diablo III, Assassin's Creed IV, Saints Row 3 & 4, Witcher ****ing 3, and even DOOM: Eternal and Outer World's are coming.

Then we have the countless cult classic ports that Xbox never got and still don't have (that Switch and PS4 do).

Originally posted by Jmanghan
I'm of the opinion that physical media for games will always be a thing, changing to a cloud-based format will cause a crash for the industry.

How many people do you know, truly, or hell, even heard about, that decided to go for download-only?

People still value physical media, and I have no doubt that Nintendo, Sony, & Microsoft agree.

That's just not true anymore.

PC has been download only for the 10+ years. Microsoft's Xbox Game Pass is becoming more and more popular. Gamestop is failing. There is now 4 major store fronts for download only titles when there used to only one.

How would cloud based format crash the industry? That makes no sense. It will change but it won't crash it. Software developers will still sell software....

Tbh, if the gaming industry went DL only I’d probably buy like two games a year. Collecting is half the fun, I’m already at 60% retro gaming as it is. I don’t need another reason to ditch modern gaming.

Originally posted by Smasandian
Once we start moving towards cloud based streaming, where will Nintendo be?

We are a far way from that. Plus, Nintendo is hand held only now so I don’t see them ever truly transitioning to it. So it’s a moot point.

Originally posted by Smasandian
How would cloud based format crash the industry? That makes no sense. It will change but it won't crash it. Software developers will still sell software....

Because it'd be neutering half the fans of gaming in general, I don't think I've ever met someone without at least 1 physical game in their collection.

Maybe you disagree but I think it's different then the whole Netflix-Blockbuster situation years ago.

That's just not true anymore.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/190225/digital-and-physical-game-sales-in-the-us-since-2009/

Only 17% of sales are physical. I assume this number is due to the amount of sales are attributed to Steam, Epic, GOG, Windows Store and etc.

https://www.ccn.com/playstation-4-digital-game-sales-overtake-physical-thats-a-first/

This is for PS4...the most popular console and where all physical sales would be accounted for (you cannot buy PC games through physical means anymore)

For Nintendo, http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2019/04/nintendos_digital_sales_are_nearly_double_the_amount_of_the_previous_fiscal_year

Probably the biggest console for physical sales to the lack of hard drive space and etc...but its digital is still climbing

I am not going to say physical will completely be replaced anytime soon but it will happen. It's happening.

What's your point? Digital=/=streaming.