Originally posted by Mindship
"You can always count on Americans to do the right thing -- after they've tried everything else."
-- Winston Churchill.
Given the history of his own country the lack of self awareness here made me laugh out loud.
It's like seeing a citizen of the UK lecture Americans about freedom.
Originally posted by SurturChurchill was half American... me greater than anyone with such a shit grasp of history.
Given the history of his own country the lack of self awareness here made me laugh out loud.It's like seeing a citizen of the UK lecture Americans about freedom.
Winston Churchill was half American by birth – a fact of which he was deeply proud. ... Not only did Winston Churchill have Revolutionary blood in his veins but, possibly, native American as well. According to family tradition, Jennie's maternal grandmother, Clarissa Willcox, was half-Iroquois.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Winston Churchill was half American by birth – a fact of which he was deeply proud. ... Not only did Winston Churchill have Revolutionary blood in his veins but, possibly, native American as well. According to family tradition, Jennie's maternal grandmother, Clarissa Willcox, was half-Iroquois.
Okay, show me him referring to himself as a citizen of both countries.
🙂
Originally posted by SurturNot the point he often referred to himself as half American, which he was. Like Boris who is also half american he could not retain citizenship and be prime minister. If indeed he had citizenship, that said he had a right to it and spent a great deal of time in the US. He may have had native American blood too.
Okay, show me him referring to himself as a citizen of both countries.🙂
Me greater than anyone who didn't know Churchill was half American by birth.
Winston Churchill was half American by birth – a fact of which he was deeply proud. ... Not only did Winston Churchill have Revolutionary blood in his veins but, possibly, native American as well. According to family tradition, Jennie's maternal grandmother, Clarissa Willcox, was half-Iroquois.
Me greater than anyone who didn't know Churchill was half American by birth.
Oh he had honorary American citizenship.
ON APRIL 9th, 1963, a deeply moved Sir Winston Churchill, sitting in his London home with his wife beside him, watched a satellite relay of a White House ceremony giving him honorary US citizenship. It had been hoped that he would not only witness the event by TV but would also he able to respond. However, the relay station at Goonhilly, Cornwall, was not ready to transmit and it was decided not to request French help for this special Anglo-American occasion.
In Washington, several hundred guests, including Averell Harriman, Dean Acheson and three sons of Franklin Roosevelt, gathered in the White House Rose Garden. A very special guest was 92-year old Bernard Baruch, a close friend of Sir Winston’s. Observing from a window and recovering from a stroke was the American President’s father, Joseph Kennedy, a former Ambassador to Great Britain and opponent of American involvement in the war. The Churchill family was represented by his son Randolph Churchill and grandson, Winston.
Sir Winston was to share a distinction held only by the Marquis de LaFayette. But it was the first time that Congress had actually resolved that honorary citizenship he bestowed, by the President of the United States, on a foreign national. LaFayette had local citizenry conferred on him by Maryland and Virginia when the colonies became the Union in 1788. Like all other citizens of those states, he then became a citizen of the newly-created United States of America. Churchill, by contrast, had been granted honorary citizenship of eight states: Hawaii, Maryland, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Tennessee, Texas and West Virginia.
Me greater than anyone who did not know how America honoured Churchill.
Originally posted by Old Man Whirly!
Half American by blood and an honourary cutizen. Best a Prime Minister could have.
Me greater than anyone who didn't know how America loved it's half lung son Churchil.You got owned chin up!
He's not an American citizen lol. This is like a celebrity saying they went to college cuz they were given an honorary degree.
You're embarrassing yourself in an attempt to gain pretend victories. And today is a Sunday meaning Rob isn't likely to be here to pretend you're making valid points.
So you're left with Bash or maybe Darth Thor. Yikes. Though it's possible Jaden would also play along too.
Originally posted by SurturHalf American by blood. Honourary citizen, native American blood. Me greater than anyone who didnt know this.
He's not an American citizen lol. This is like a celebrity saying they went to college cuz they were given an honorary degree.You're embarrassing yourself in an attempt to gain pretend victories. And today is a Sunday meaning Rob isn't likely to be here to pretend you're making valid points.
So you're left with Bash or maybe Darth Thor. Yikes. Though it's possible Jaden would also play along too.
Originally posted by SurturAs in the freedom to be selfish and in denial?
It's like seeing a citizen of the UK lecture Americans about freedom.
A society that fosters self-indulgence is now being asked to practice self-discipline, and it is falling short. Not by all citizens, but by enough. No wonder the US is handling the virus worse than Europe.
With great power (rights) comes great responsibility (including social/collective responsibility). While this is commonly attributed to Stan Lee, initial forms of the phrase date back to the French Revolution, ~1793. Since then, the phrase has been quoted often (usually in Spider-Man form), including by the SCOTUS.
Rights w/o responsibility leads -- as we are seeing -- to narcissistic recklessness.
And just to clarify: responsibility w/o rights ... that's slavery.