WB Hulk vs Sundipped Superman

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
That's because you cannot handle being schooled by me on this, the one storyline you should be an expert in.

Anyway.

Bibeast, ArmCheddon, Wendigo etc were all at normal size, chained up etc. BiBeast had no fight left in him:

But more importantly.....

The burning/dying/reforming? That wasn't WBH's power. That was the power of the villain's wishes backfiring on them:

Some of them wished for him to be removed from Earth. That wish was granted with the exile to the Dark Dimension (so much for BFR not working, amirite??).

Some of them wished for him to suffer as they did. Which backfired by them now having to burn/reform for eternity.

[b]Summary: the villains were NOT amped x1000 times when WBH melted them, and them being melted was due to WBH being amped by their backfired wish to burn and reform for all eternity. They would have melted from anything else, WBH and Betty's punching each other was not needed. [/B]

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Super speed of this level, means that the Hulk would be hurtling towards Jupiter before he ever knew what was going on.

Dark is so...

We clearly see Hulk and Betty intact without a scratch while everyone else was melting away.

He isnt melting here, THEY ARE. We see Hulk after this on a hill watching everything reform. He even wished everyone back to life, everything back to life. What have sundip Superman done to win this fight?

Another scan of everyone melting except Hulk and Betty.

And were they amped? Simple question.

They were dying from the explosion true... But they werent (1000x ?)amped. That happened a few issues back in Vegas. U conflated the two separate instances.

Originally posted by carver9
Dark is so...

We clearly see Hulk and Betty intact without a scratch while everyone else was melting away.

He isnt melting here, THEY ARE. We see Hulk after this on a hill watching everything reform. He even wished everyone back to life, everything back to life. What have sundip Superman done to win this fight?

Flew him into the sun and left him there

After the explosion. Lol, Hulk brought everyone back so that he can kill them again. He was waiting on the cliff while everyone was being reformed.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
They were dying from the explosion true... But they werent (1000x ?)amped. That happened a few issues back in Vegas. U conflated the two separate instances.

Nayja made a good argument a while back, cant remember what he said but they never lost the amp.

Maybe i missed something, but the amp(?) was in correlation to the massive addition to their size... And by size I mean BiBeast and Wendigo which all happened a few issues prior.

Originally posted by carver9
After the explosion. Lol, Hulk brought everyone back so that he can kill them again. He was waiting on the cliff while everyone was being reformed.

So Hulk is into killing children now?

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Maybe i missed something, but the amp(?) was in correlation to the massive addition to their size... And by size I mean BiBeast and Wendigo which all happened a few issues prior.

The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
So Hulk is into killing children now?

I wouldn't consider that murder since everyone is coming back to life.

Originally posted by BrolyBlack
Flew him into the sun and left him there

This is possible but it would be self bfr. Both would lose.

Originally posted by carver9
The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.

Well your argument relies on Umar having chains etc to hold multiple beings that are 1000x Savage Hulk levels.....

Originally posted by carver9
The growth did have play in that but the wishes doesn't just go away. Their size probably went back because of Umar but the amp, that is questionable imo unless Umar have a way of overriding it. Also, Fing Fang was wished to have enough power to take over earth. He was amplified as well.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
I agree about Foom. But it was clear their added mass was already gone by the time he went World Breaker. The wishes were so random that I find it hard to believe each wish was perpetual. The loss in size was imo a clear sign of that loss in extra power.

I see what you mean. At the end of the day, everything is still on my side because when they were amplified 1000 folds, Hulk at a FAR weaker form killed them in a single punch. Both of them.

I'll concede on this one until I read the issue again.

Lmao thanks 😂

I honestly thought that the amp wore off Carver? In my opinion, it's too speculative to prove 100%. I guess we could use two scenarios instead of this becoming the eternal circular discussion that it's become.

1. The amp wore off. There was a collision that destroyed Umar's entire kingdom, which includes those in question.

2. The amp was there. There was a collision that destroyed Umar's entire kingdom, which includes those in question.

Whether amped, or not amped, I'm certain that they would have been non factors in the destruction of Umar's entire kingdom. This conclusion should be obvious, as the Hulk at a far lower level of power had little trouble defeating them in their amped state prior to them being transported to Umar's kingdom.

He killed them during while they were amped (1000 fold) with a single punch).